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Announcing the data.gov archive

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Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by Juliate »

Juliate wrote: post #30
milesrout wrote: post #27

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>I'm assuming good intentions on the part of Harvard, but keeping this data online against the express will of the government is gonna cost (political) capital. Harvard like other liberal institutions has little to no political capital in a Republican white house in the first place. Why would it cost them any to host data that is in the public domain? This sort of silly overreaction is part of why people voted for Tr…

> Nobody was taken away by the Gestapo Someone forgot the "kids in cages" episodes in 2018 when Trump was only testing the waters... EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_administration_family_se...

Someone didn't like to be reminded of things. :)

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by tlb »

black_puppydog wrote: post #5

Great to see there's some resistance. What I'm missing from this announcement though is any mention of how they intend to secure this "vault" against the current government. I'm assuming good intentions on the part of Harvard, but keeping this data online against the express will of the government is gonna cost (political) capital. And from what I can see, the archive is hosted by US entities on US-controlled servers…

It might not be ironclad, but the ease with which federal workers can fiddle with data they're hosting themselves vs. fiddling with data in Harvard's library is a pretty big difference. And if it ever came to demands for censorship, it wouldn't be Harvard Library's first rodeo.

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by nicce »

koolba wrote: post #49
globalnode wrote: post #22

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Im predicting no more elections for you guys in 4 years. Something makes me think theres gonna be some "reason" to turn them off.

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It certainly does not look good for a fair traditional elections. All people in power are currently being replaced with pro-Trump folks.

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by nicce »

IsTom wrote: post #37
anonzzzies wrote: post #15

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Torrent would do it but 16TB is still not that cheap to just have running in your house nas (otherwise I would).

You can download and share only selected parts of a torrent. With enough people you're going to get full coverage anyway.

Assuming that people randomly select the portions.

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

milesrout wrote: post #25
lou1306 wrote: post #8

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I beg you, please stop applying rule-of-law mindset against might-makes-right adversaries. It creates blind spots giving the illusion that the attack surface is way smaller than it actually is. Muskolites are taking on the SSN system without any Congressional oversight as we speak. The President is attacking ius soli which is a Constitutional right. If they decide that sending their sleuths to Cambridge MA to physica…

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This is exactly how fascism happens.

https://archive.is/g6ElI

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by vincnetas »

IsTom wrote: post #37
anonzzzies wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Torrent would do it but 16TB is still not that cheap to just have running in your house nas (otherwise I would).

You can download and share only selected parts of a torrent. With enough people you're going to get full coverage anyway.

how do you coordinate who downloads which part?

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by nicce »

hypothesis wrote: post #34
milesrout wrote: post #25

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There is no need to lie, as this is easily verifiable, eg: > A federal court on January 31 temporarily blocked the Trump administration’s government-wide pause on federal grant funding. But soon after, the administration argued the president’s directives were still in effect. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/billions-dollars-us-project...

Who has the power to enforce directives?

Will police and military soon go the White House/other places so that federal grant continues, if court asks?

Because if court cannot do that, it is already lost.

Re: Announcing the data.gov archive

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Post by FredFS456 »

mongol wrote: post #40
globalnode wrote: post #22

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Im predicting no more elections for you guys in 4 years. Something makes me think theres gonna be some "reason" to turn them off.

I am sure there will be elections. Question is how fair they will be. Have a look at Russia's recent presidential election. Putin "winning" it was a given from the start. US voters need to be mindful of all the ways an election can be rigged.

IMO US elections have already been less-than-fully-democratic for a while, what with the voting registration and ID nonsense, as well as obvious gerrymandering and voter intimidation. At the very least, significantly less democratic than a number of other western countries.
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