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Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Post by freedomben »

falcor84 wrote: post #49
xnorswap wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it horrifying and dystopian that the part where it "Can't talk politics" is just accepted and your complaint is that it interrupts your ability to talk chilli. "Go back to bed America." "You are free, to do as we tell you" https://youtu.be/TNPeYflsMdg?t=143

Hear, hear! There has to be a better way about it. As I see it, to be productive, AI agents have to be able to talk about politics, because at the end of the day politics are everywhere. So following up on what they do already, they'll have to define a model's political stance (whatever it is), and to have it hold its ground, voicing an opinion or abstaining from voicing an opinion, but continuing the conversation, a…

There aren't many mono-cultures as strong as silicon valley politics. Where this intersects with my beliefs I love it, but where it doesn't it is maddening. I suspect that's how most people feel.

But anyway, when one is rarely or never challenged on their beliefs, they become rusty. Do you trust them to do a good job training their own views into the model, let alone training in the views of someone on the opposite side of the spectrum?

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Post by silvajoao »

Try out the new models at https://aistudio.google.com.

It's a great way to experiment with all the Gemini models that are also available via the API.

If you haven't yet, try also Live mode at https://aistudio.google.com/live.

You can have a live conversation with Gemini and have the model see the world via your phone camera (or see your desktop via screenshare on the web), and talk about it. It's quite a cool experience! It made me feel the joy of programming and using computers that I had had so many times before.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Post by xnorswap »

falcor84 wrote: post #49
xnorswap wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it horrifying and dystopian that the part where it "Can't talk politics" is just accepted and your complaint is that it interrupts your ability to talk chilli. "Go back to bed America." "You are free, to do as we tell you" https://youtu.be/TNPeYflsMdg?t=143

Hear, hear! There has to be a better way about it. As I see it, to be productive, AI agents have to be able to talk about politics, because at the end of the day politics are everywhere. So following up on what they do already, they'll have to define a model's political stance (whatever it is), and to have it hold its ground, voicing an opinion or abstaining from voicing an opinion, but continuing the conversation, a…

Indeed, you can facilitate talking politics without having a set opinion.

It's a fine line, but it is something the BBC managed to do for a very long time. The BBC does not itself present an opinion on Politics yet facilitates political discussion through shows like Newsnight and The Daily Politics (rip).

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Post by falcor84 »

leetharris wrote: post #39

These names are unbelievably bad. Flash, Flash-Lite? How do these AI companies keep doing this? Sonnet 3.5 v2 o3-mini-high Gemini Flash-Lite It's like a competition to see who can make the goofiest naming conventions. Regarding model quality, we experiment with Google models constantly at Rev and they are consistently the worst of all the major players. They always benchmark well and consistently fail in real tasks.…

> It's like a competition to see who can make the goofiest naming conventions.

I'm still waiting for one of them to overflow from version 360 down to One.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Post by singhrac »

ysofunny wrote: post #40
singhrac wrote: post #31

What is the model I get at gemini.google.com (i.e. through my Workspace subscription)? It says "Gemini Advanced" but there are no other details. No model selection option. I find the lack of clarity very frustrating. If I want to try Google's "best" model, should I be purchasing something? AI Studio seems focused around building an LLM wrapper app, but I just want something to answer my questions. Edit: what I've lea…

hmm did you try clickin where it says 'gemini advanced'? I find it opens a drop down

I just tried it but nothing happens when I click on that. You're talking about the thing on the upper left next to the open/close menu button?

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Post by msuvakov »

Gemini 2.0 works great with large context. A few hours ago, I posted a ShowHN about parsing an entire book in a single prompt. The goal was to extract characters, relationships, and descriptions that could then be used for image generation:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42946317

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Post by singhrac »

miyuru wrote: post #46
singhrac wrote: post #31

What is the model I get at gemini.google.com (i.e. through my Workspace subscription)? It says "Gemini Advanced" but there are no other details. No model selection option. I find the lack of clarity very frustrating. If I want to try Google's "best" model, should I be purchasing something? AI Studio seems focused around building an LLM wrapper app, but I just want something to answer my questions. Edit: what I've lea…

changes must be rolling out now, I can see 3 Gemini 2.0 models in the dropdown, with blue "new" badges. screenshot: https://beeimg.com/images/g25051981724.png

This works on my personal Google account, but not on my workspace one. So I guess there's no access to 2.0 Pro then? I'm ok trying out Flash for now and see if it fixes the mistakes I ran into yesterday.

Edit: it does not. It continues to miss the fact that I'm (incorrectly) passing in a scaled query tensor to scaled_dot_product_attention. o3-mini-high gets this right.

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