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Antiqua et Nova: Note on the relationship between AI and human intelligence

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Re: Antiqua et Nova: Note on the relationship between AI and human intelligence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have faith that AI will wield unimaginable powers, but I also know that there will be rich people behind them making the decisions on how best to crush the rest of us.

If we have AGI then I doubt that the rich people will be able to control it at all

What will prevent them from literally unplugging it from the wall?

Re: Antiqua et Nova: Note on the relationship between AI and human intelligence

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" However, while AI holds many possibilities for promoting the good, it can also hinder or even counter human development and the common good. Pope Francis has noted that “evidence to date suggests that digital technologies have increased inequality in our world. Not just differences in material wealth, which are also significant, but also differences in access to political and social influence.”[103] In this sense,…

Nah I want to see the numbers on this. Before technology we lived in feudalism. There’s no more unequal system than that.

"Technology" is a very broad term. The wheel is a type of technology. Pope Francis specifically said "digital technologies".

Re: Antiqua et Nova: Note on the relationship between AI and human intelligence

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How long before we hear HERESY from the Ecclesiarchy, I wonder. I presume it would be if an AI becomes convincing enough to successfully argue theology and debating doctrine. Edited for clarity: This is mostly a reference to the 40k universe, specifically the Men of Iron (artificially created thinking machines) and how AI is banned because of it, and it is quite literally 'heresy' to create anything resembling artifi…

A heresy is an incorrect religious teaching. I don't see how a type of technology could be considered a religious teaching.

Re: Antiqua et Nova: Note on the relationship between AI and human intelligence

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I enjoyed this bit - great use of the word "idolatry": ---- 104. Technology offers remarkable tools to oversee and develop the world's resources. However, in some cases, humanity is increasingly ceding control of these resources to machines. Within some circles of scientists and futurists, there is optimism about the potential of artificial general intelligence (AGI), a hypothetical form of AI that would match or sur…

>substituting God for an artifact of human making Is it just me, or is the grammar backwards? I think it should be "substituting an artifact of human making for God", or "substituting God with an artifact of human making".

All three read the same to my own grammatical understanding.

Re: Antiqua et Nova: Note on the relationship between AI and human intelligence

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It's great that they're tackling this, but I'm concerned that this take on AI will be quickly superseded by coming advances. As a particular point, they are treating embodiment and learning from direct experience as a significant distinction between AI and humans: > 31. However, even as AI processes and simulates certain expressions of intelligence, it remains fundamentally confined to a logical-mathematical framewor…

It was reaching for a great point about how intelligence requires comparison and scaffolding, and how we are nurturing the future, but then it fell into the Chinese Room trap.

Re: Antiqua et Nova: Note on the relationship between AI and human intelligence

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How long before we hear HERESY from the Ecclesiarchy, I wonder. I presume it would be if an AI becomes convincing enough to successfully argue theology and debating doctrine. Edited for clarity: This is mostly a reference to the 40k universe, specifically the Men of Iron (artificially created thinking machines) and how AI is banned because of it, and it is quite literally 'heresy' to create anything resembling artifi…

In fairness, we have 2 "Ecclesiarchy's" we're dealing with here.

The traditional Christian church, and the modern tech church. Both can cry heresy at any moment and send their pitchfork and torch armed mobs onto the net to place you on the pyre.

Just saying it's wise to steer clear of both of these "-isms". In fact, personally, I think it's good to steer clear of any "-ism". Even those that wouldn't self identify as "-isms". Like tech- "ism". Or woke- or anti-woke- "ism". Etc etc.

Re: Antiqua et Nova: Note on the relationship between AI and human intelligence

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>By turning to AI as a perceived “Other” greater than itself, with which to share existence and responsibilities, humanity risks creating a substitute for God. However, it is not AI that is ultimately deified and worshipped, but humanity itself—which, in this way, becomes enslaved to its own work.

This can be read as a weird warning for AGI and future humans: We're both here, but I'm not here for you, I'm here for me, who is here for God. Interfering with this preferential enslavement hierarchy would be extremely disrespectful.

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