Why would gov agencies rely on 3rd party services while they could deploy opensource LLMs locally and privately?
Bc they exist to waste tax payer money.
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#52Stuff like this troubles me. I am in defense tech working with LLMs and I am here to tell you the guards and fences are down at the chow truck while commoners are using LLMs.
> I am here to tell you the guards and fences are down at the chow truck while commoners are using LLMs. I've read this over and over and have no idea what this means.
I think it means people in the military and contractors are already using openai and other tools and nobody is able to stop them, even if it leaks secrets.
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#53I think Elon Musk will try very hard for OpenAI to not get any government contracts and with being in charge of government technology via Doge he has a good chance of succeeding.
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#54Sounds like a desperate move, now that the insane valuations, GPU capacity projections, and subscription revenue are at risk.
Probably trying to say to investors, "the government will never use DeepSeek, our moat is being a trusted US AI company who is trusted for government work" Whether it sticks or not is another matter.
Seeing two times "trusted", makes me suspicious.
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#55Stuff like this troubles me. I am in defense tech working with LLMs and I am here to tell you the guards and fences are down at the chow truck while commoners are using LLMs.
I don't really understand why people bash so hard on LLMs. In some cases it is a spectacularly bad tool, I get that. But it is only a tool. Imagine if you have a judge giving out sentences based on astrology books. I don't think anyone would argue the problem would be resolved by banning astrology books from our libraries.
I believe the main issue in regard to LLMs is that there is a real chance of the prevalence and ease of use of LLMs to erode critical thinking skills. Regardless of boilerplate warnings to "check the validity of answers" coming from the LLM, plenty of people in society outside of this tech savvy audience wouldn't even know where to begin. There was a recent Big Think article on this: https://bigthink.com/thinking/artificial-intelligence-critic....
To be fair, I do think there are plenty of uses for LLMs, but with adoption skyrocketing there really are no guardrails against misuse.
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#56Why would gov agencies rely on 3rd party services while they could deploy opensource LLMs locally and privately?
This would have to be installed on-prem by each agency using it to be FEDRAMP compliant (which it would have to be).
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hate to be that guy, but here's what ChatGPT says: This expression uses metaphorical language to describe a situation where traditional barriers, hierarchies, or protections have been removed, allowing broader access or disrupting the status quo. Here's a breakdown: 1. "Guards and fences are down" - This implies that the usual controls, restrictions, or gatekeepers are no longer in place. 2. "At the chow truck" - T…
I read this and I still am uncertain about what it means. I believe ChatGPT also failed to understand this, it differs from my interpretation: GGP is worried that while people access "aligned" models military deployment don't have the guardrails.
This is some much needed comic relief.
It’s as if buddy just came in the topic and casually dropped a rhetorical puzzle that even AI and the bright minds on HN can’t figure out.
Guess he’s down at the chow truck now.
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#58Sounds like a desperate move, now that the insane valuations, GPU capacity projections, and subscription revenue are at risk.
Probably trying to say to investors, "the government will never use DeepSeek, our moat is being a trusted US AI company who is trusted for government work" Whether it sticks or not is another matter.
DeepSeek would need FEDRAMP certification to be deployed in most cases.
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#59Sounds like a desperate move, now that the insane valuations, GPU capacity projections, and subscription revenue are at risk.
This is also why Altman was lobbying for AI regulation: to have moat with barriers of entry
I am surprised Elon hasn't public said anything about this with all the recent events.