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Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Not being from the US, I find it odd that the article didn't mention anything about vaccination. Until 2005, pretty much everyone in the UK received the BCG vaccine. After that the TB rate fell too low to merit routine vaccination, but even today it's still given routinely in a few areas where the rate merits it, or if there's elevated risk of exposure via family from abroad, etc. Has vaccination in general become such a divisive topic in the US that articles about diseases for which we used to routinely vaccinate don't even mention that a vaccine is available and greatly reduces the risk of the most severe forms of TB, such as TB meningitis?

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

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but only because dead people don't buy eggs so it's expected lowered demand will "stabilize" prices.

the numbers are what's important, people. (sorry (not sorry) for the angry sarcasm)

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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The BCG vaccine is not protective against tuberculosis in adults. It helps prevent miliary tuberculosis in children. I did my graduate work on tuberculosis. Those of us who weren't vaccinated because of our country of origin refused to be because the vaccine wouldn't help us and it changes testing for TB from a quick skin test to a lung x-ray. It's not barbaric or corrupt or anti-vaccine in this case. It's details of…

all countries vaccine children, wich then prevents such outbreaks. what am I missing?

ceejayoz: exactly the point of the last remark on my annecdote.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

How is it that Trump is so timely at cutting medical resources right before the moment it is most needed? Or perhaps such outbreaks are more common than you'd expect and it's the equivalent of leaving a firewall down for a day? And yeah, I'm aware a bigger factor in this freeze was hiding the very obvious Bird Flu pandemic. Can't hide the eggs getting more expensive though.

Trump is not acting in people's best interests. Wait, just rumaging around looking for my shocked face mask.

Eggs more expensive doesn't matter any more.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The BCG vaccine is not protective against tuberculosis in adults. It helps prevent miliary tuberculosis in children. I did my graduate work on tuberculosis. Those of us who weren't vaccinated because of our country of origin refused to be because the vaccine wouldn't help us and it changes testing for TB from a quick skin test to a lung x-ray. It's not barbaric or corrupt or anti-vaccine in this case. It's details of…

all countries vaccine children, wich then prevents such outbreaks. what am I missing? ceejayoz: exactly the point of the last remark on my annecdote.

The US does not widely vaccinate children for TB.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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It is. It’s called a protest vote, and it’s done by casting a blank ballot

...which does just about as much as voting (that is, precious little). If we're ever going to claw ourselves out of this (or any) mess, we need ranked choice or something like it. The giant douche / turd sandwich dichotomy needs to end, for everyone on any side of the political spectrum.

> which does just about as much as voting

Did you expect something else?

No matter what system of voting we use, unless we go back to only white landowning men can vote or something (doubt we want to do that), you can’t avoid the fact that 160 million+ people vote together for President.

The most viable solution looks less like changing to ranked choice and more like returning more governing power to lower levels of government (state and local) where there is less competition

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it that Trump is so timely at cutting medical resources right before the moment it is most needed? Or perhaps such outbreaks are more common than you'd expect and it's the equivalent of leaving a firewall down for a day? And yeah, I'm aware a bigger factor in this freeze was hiding the very obvious Bird Flu pandemic. Can't hide the eggs getting more expensive though.

Trump is not acting in people's best interests. Wait, just rumaging around looking for my shocked face mask. Eggs more expensive doesn't matter any more.

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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How can this possibly be America's largest TB outbreak in history? TB was killing thousands of people per year in America in the 1800s.

> She noted that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention started monitoring and reporting tuberculosis cases in the U.S. in the 1950s.

But surely our disease experts know about the past outbreaks and their impact and wouldn't say something patently untrue like the headline.
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