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Crushing Jira tickets is a party trick, not a path to impact

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Re: Crushing Jira tickets is a party trick, not a path to impact

#51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t exchange “pride” for goods and services. The people that hold the power to give you raises and promotions don’t care about “craftsmenship”

Why are you so conditioned to think that fancier titles and more and more money is the end goal of it all?

I have this insatiable addiction to food and shelter. If I could get over my addiction, not only wouldn’t I care about money, I wouldn’t be working.

Re: Crushing Jira tickets is a party trick, not a path to impact

#52

The most respected and well paid senior engineers and managers at my company are all ex-ticket crushers. They put in their time being the kind of people that managers could trust to get stuff done and done right and done promptly. Trying to play games and fudge it only works in a company big enough that this sort of gamesmanship goes undetected beyond your immediate team. Or if you have a bad boss that isn't really k…

> The most respected and well paid senior engineers and managers at my company are all ex-ticket crushers.

The problem with this is that because of salary compression, it’s usually better to job hop.

Re: Crushing Jira tickets is a party trick, not a path to impact

#53

> Everything you could want from a company - promotions, bonuses, internal respect - comes from shipping projects True but what if you're stuck in a job where crushing Jira tickets is the metric?

“Either change the environment or change the environment”

Re: Crushing Jira tickets is a party trick, not a path to impact

#54
post #4

> If you ship a project and your management chain begins talking about the next thing, stop improving that project. and this type of advice is precisely why the whole industry completely lost its ability to produce usable things.

and yet software eats the world, eh? the craziest thing to me is that each time I get close with someone in our industry (conferences, meetups, socially…) and get insights into what they do and how things are I stop doing something in my life. I sold a car of a certain brand after hearing horror stories about the code running the car and few other things like that… crazy stuff!

Re: Crushing Jira tickets is a party trick, not a path to impact

#55

The most respected and well paid senior engineers and managers at my company are all ex-ticket crushers. They put in their time being the kind of people that managers could trust to get stuff done and done right and done promptly. Trying to play games and fudge it only works in a company big enough that this sort of gamesmanship goes undetected beyond your immediate team. Or if you have a bad boss that isn't really k…

> The most respected and well paid senior engineers and managers at my company are all ex-ticket crushers. The problem with this is that because of salary compression, it’s usually better to job hop.

I disagree for two reasons:

- job hoppers do not realize how often they are discarded for being that. where I work this is the FIRST and most important part of the CV review. job hopper CVs are immediately thrown out (and trust me, you want to work where I work). I have numerous colleagues that work elsewhere and all but one have exact same thing going on. no one in their right mind is going to invest into someone who will obviously leave in a couple of years.

- if you are at the right place and are valuable you will get paid accordingly. it is just that this notion of “I must hop to boost my earnings” is so pervasive in our industry that people seldom just hit up their managers etc for adjustment to compensation. no sane company is going to let go an employee who is valuable to them

Re: Crushing Jira tickets is a party trick, not a path to impact

#56

This is cynical and accurate, and may crush your soul if you're not careful. Just don't get too caught up in mistakenly confusing "urgent" and "important" as this blog post (and many executives) seem to do. If you want to actually deliver value then that'll mean doing some amount of thankless and un-asked for work because nobody has noticed that if X/Y/Z isn't addressed/fixed/maintained then a major part/all of the c…

> If you can't independently and proactively take action to improve things for your customers without gaining some "minimum amount of glory", you are working in a dysfunctional organization. I recommend not working there. Or I recommend cynically gaming the system.

All large companies are dysfunctional. If you want to maximize your compensation, you play the game. The top end of enterprise dev is around the entry level of BigTech.

While at 50 I don’t want to play that game (been there done that), I would definitely give someone younger the same advice as the author.

Re: Crushing Jira tickets is a party trick, not a path to impact

#57
post #24
post #4

> If you ship a project and your management chain begins talking about the next thing, stop improving that project. and this type of advice is precisely why the whole industry completely lost its ability to produce usable things.

You know what killed the dinosaurs, right? Impact.

Deep.

Re: Crushing Jira tickets is a party trick, not a path to impact

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The most respected and well paid senior engineers and managers at my company are all ex-ticket crushers. The problem with this is that because of salary compression, it’s usually better to job hop.

I disagree for two reasons: - job hoppers do not realize how often they are discarded for being that. where I work this is the FIRST and most important part of the CV review. job hopper CVs are immediately thrown out (and trust me, you want to work where I work). I have numerous colleagues that work elsewhere and all but one have exact same thing going on. no one in their right mind is going to invest into someone wh…

> no sane company is going to let go an employee who is valuable to them.

You say that as if companies are sane. Management may think you are valuable to them. But HR sets the salary bands. Management only has so much power over raises.

Re: Crushing Jira tickets is a party trick, not a path to impact

#59

Another way to frame this is to not get too attached to your code. Tmrw it could be the cornerstone to a new line of business or it can be burned in the dumpster.

One of the soft skill tricks is building new allies out of subordinates. Almost nobody gets promoted to a level of influence until they’re a bus number in something important. And that often requires waiting for the project scope to grow enough horizontally for new domains to open up, or for someone senior to pass the torch.

If management is doing their jobs in growing the team then this all works out. But if they’re letting those with tenure get first pick of new problems, then you can play the game, carving out your share of the spoils, and then offloading other things before your head explodes. Every thing you offload is a ladder rung for someone else.

That way you end up with code that is no longer your baby but still not on the trash heap.

Re: Crushing Jira tickets is a party trick, not a path to impact

#60

As someone who's sat on both sides of the table, getting tickets done is incredibly valuable. I don't really think an engineer is worth their salt if they can't do this. However, there's a transition that needs to happen when they hit mid-level where they need to be able to synthesize what the ticket is asking for and implement the right thing. No ticket or product manager is perfect, and awareness is often times a b…

> No ticket or product manager is perfect

Getting a product manager to write technical tickets is generally a mistake, I would say.

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