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Re: Hunyuan3D 2.0 – High-Resolution 3D Assets Generation

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Post by Philpax »

noch wrote: post #43
jsheard wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only speak for myself, but a Metaverse consisting of infinite procedural slop sounds about as appealing as reading infinite LLM generated books, that is, not at all. "Cost to zero" implies drinking directly from the AI firehose with no human in the loop (those cost money) and entertainment produced in that manner is still dire, even in the relatively mature field of pure text generation.

> a Metaverse consisting of infinite procedural slop sounds about as appealing as reading infinite LLM generated books Take a look at the ImgnAI gallery ( https://app.imgnai.com/ ) and tell me: can you paint better and more imaginatively than that? Do you know anyone in your immediate vicinity who can? Read this satirical speech by Claude, in French https://x.com/pmarca/status/1881869448275177764 ) and in English ( h…

> Take a look at the ImgnAI gallery (https://app.imgnai.com/) and tell me: can you paint better and more imaginatively than that?

So while I generally agree with you, I think this was a bad example to use: a lot of these are slop, with the kind of AI sheen we've come to glaze over. I'd say less than 20% are actually artistically impressive / engaging / thought-provoking.

Re: Hunyuan3D 2.0 – High-Resolution 3D Assets Generation

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Post by deadbabe »

slt2021 wrote: post #39
deadbabe wrote: post #28

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I think you’re being short sighted. Imagine feeding in your favorite TV shows to a generative AI and being able to walk around in the world and talk to characters or explore it with other people.

do you find it interesting talking to NPCs in games?

Talking to NPCs in games is really just reading dialog written by humans.

If you could actually talk to NPCs as in get their thoughts about the world and ask open ended questions, that’d be very interesting.

Re: Hunyuan3D 2.0 – High-Resolution 3D Assets Generation

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Post by deadbabe »

bschwindHN wrote: post #36
deadbabe wrote: post #28

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I think you’re being short sighted. Imagine feeding in your favorite TV shows to a generative AI and being able to walk around in the world and talk to characters or explore it with other people.

That's still AI slop, in my opinion.

Everything will be AI slop to you.

There will never be a point where AI creates something incredible and you are like wow I prefer this AI stuff over human made slop.

Re: Hunyuan3D 2.0 – High-Resolution 3D Assets Generation

#54

Post by EMIRELADERO »

slt2021 wrote: post #41
EMIRELADERO wrote: post #8

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I assume it's safe to ignore as model weights aren't copyrightable, probably.

you dont know what kind of backdoors are hidden in the model weights

I mean... you can just firewall it?

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Post by bschwindHN »

deadbabe wrote: post #53
bschwindHN wrote: post #36

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That's still AI slop, in my opinion.

Everything will be AI slop to you. There will never be a point where AI creates something incredible and you are like wow I prefer this AI stuff over human made slop.

Yes, because if someone has a tool that creates "something incredible", then everyone will be able to generate "something incredible" and then it all becomes not incredible.

It's like having god-mode in a game, it all becomes boring very quickly when you can have whatever you want.

Re: Hunyuan3D 2.0 – High-Resolution 3D Assets Generation

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Post by slt2021 »

EMIRELADERO wrote: post #54
slt2021 wrote: post #41

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you dont know what kind of backdoors are hidden in the model weights

I mean... you can just firewall it?

you dont know which prompt activates the backdoor, how can you firewall it if you run the model in production?

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Post by xgkickt »

deadbabe wrote: post #28
jsheard wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only speak for myself, but a Metaverse consisting of infinite procedural slop sounds about as appealing as reading infinite LLM generated books, that is, not at all. "Cost to zero" implies drinking directly from the AI firehose with no human in the loop (those cost money) and entertainment produced in that manner is still dire, even in the relatively mature field of pure text generation.

I think you’re being short sighted. Imagine feeding in your favorite TV shows to a generative AI and being able to walk around in the world and talk to characters or explore it with other people.

The trademark/copyright issues of making that both a reality and an income stream are as yet unsolved.

Re: Hunyuan3D 2.0 – High-Resolution 3D Assets Generation

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Post by esperent »

Philpax wrote: post #51
noch wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a Metaverse consisting of infinite procedural slop sounds about as appealing as reading infinite LLM generated books Take a look at the ImgnAI gallery ( https://app.imgnai.com/ ) and tell me: can you paint better and more imaginatively than that? Do you know anyone in your immediate vicinity who can? Read this satirical speech by Claude, in French https://x.com/pmarca/status/1881869448275177764 ) and in English ( h…

> Take a look at the ImgnAI gallery ( https://app.imgnai.com/ ) and tell me: can you paint better and more imaginatively than that? So while I generally agree with you, I think this was a bad example to use: a lot of these are slop, with the kind of AI sheen we've come to glaze over. I'd say less than 20% are actually artistically impressive / engaging / thought-provoking.

This is a better AI gallery (I sorted all images on the site by top from this year).

https://civitai.com/images

There's still plenty of slop in there, and it would be a better gallery of if there was a way to filter out anime girls. But it's definitely higher than 20% interesting to me.

The closest similar community of human made art is this:

https://www.deviantart.com/

Although unfortunately they've decided to allow AI art there too so it makes comparison harder. Also, I couldn't figure out how to get the equivalent list (top/year). But I'd say I find around the same amount interesting. Most human made art is slop too.

Re: Hunyuan3D 2.0 – High-Resolution 3D Assets Generation

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Post by nice_byte »

noch wrote: post #43
jsheard wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only speak for myself, but a Metaverse consisting of infinite procedural slop sounds about as appealing as reading infinite LLM generated books, that is, not at all. "Cost to zero" implies drinking directly from the AI firehose with no human in the loop (those cost money) and entertainment produced in that manner is still dire, even in the relatively mature field of pure text generation.

> a Metaverse consisting of infinite procedural slop sounds about as appealing as reading infinite LLM generated books Take a look at the ImgnAI gallery ( https://app.imgnai.com/ ) and tell me: can you paint better and more imaginatively than that? Do you know anyone in your immediate vicinity who can? Read this satirical speech by Claude, in French https://x.com/pmarca/status/1881869448275177764 ) and in English ( h…

> can you paint better and more imaginatively than that?

the fact that you are seriously asking this question says a lot about your taste.

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