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Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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How is this hacker news? From the HN guidelines: Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. *If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.*

I'd guess because of the word "Most" in that line of the guidelines?

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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> Negotiations on implementing the second phase of the deal will begin by the 16th day of phase one, and this stage was expected to include the release of all remaining hostages, a permanent ceasefire and the complete withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza. Am I missing something or did they really only agree to _just_ a ceasefire?

You're not missing anything, this is a ceasefire like the first one, Israel will demand the rest of the Hostages at the end of it, Hamas will refuse, and the fighting will resume after lots of finger-pointing about whose fault it is.

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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Hamas has been considerably weakened. Their arsenal of rockets and weapons is depleted. At the beginning of the war thousands of rockets were being shot into Israel and now there are very few and the ones that are are quite crude. Hezbollah entered the war immediately and said the only way they would exit is if Hamas exists. Israel retaliated, killed their leader, decimated their forces, and negotiated a ceasefire th…

Israel has likely also created multiple generations of anger and hate against themselves. They may have reduced the likelihood of another Oct 7 in the near term, but 50 years is not something I would count on

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Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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It is news because several newspapers credit the achievement to Trump and his envoy Witkoff. Ha'aretz has more on this, but it's paywalled so here is another one: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/with-epic-deal-... This is not just Trump bragging and taking credit, search other sources.

> This is not just Trump bragging and taking credit, search other sources. This claim is not justified by the link you provide. What evidence do you have to support it?

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/11/trumps-israel-gaza-deal-jan...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-official-trump-envoy-sway...

Enjoy the fish.

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

#55

So I suppose it's just back to the status quo? What has really changed that will make a difference in 2-3 years from now? Israel has sowed a whole fresh generation of "I will sacrifice everything to wipe Israel" Palestinian youth.

Realistically, West Bank will be gone (totally settled, all Palestinians removed) in 15 years. Gaza will further be ghettoized and, pessimistically, will be basically gone in 50 years or so.

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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And yet there is the speech by Jordan's foreign minister who makes clear that the Arab states are interested in relations with Israel - as a normal state and as part of a two-state solution with mutual sovereignty, but not with a state that behaves as if they had some divine right to dominate the entire region. https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-10-02/ty-article-opinio...

Interested? Most (functional) countries in the middle east are US-aligned trading partners. Jordan, SA, Turkey, Egypt, Kuwait, Iraq...

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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Hamas has been considerably weakened. Their arsenal of rockets and weapons is depleted. At the beginning of the war thousands of rockets were being shot into Israel and now there are very few and the ones that are are quite crude. Hezbollah entered the war immediately and said the only way they would exit is if Hamas exists. Israel retaliated, killed their leader, decimated their forces, and negotiated a ceasefire th…

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What was Oct 7th retaliation to, exactly?

Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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100% support ceasefire. 100% agree Israel overdid it. 100% support Hamas must cease to exist. Don't leave that last part out

The resistance will not cease to exist until the occupation ceases to exist. Don't leave that last part out

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Re: Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

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Israel has likely also created multiple generations of anger and hate against themselves. They may have reduced the likelihood of another Oct 7 in the near term, but 50 years is not something I would count on

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> Western media is also very anti-Israeli

Taking nothing away from your personal local experiences wherever you are, I don't think this is a generally true statement.

https://institute.aljazeera.net/en/ajr/article/2871

https://www.protect-journalists.com/

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