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How hucksters are manipulating Google to promote shady Chrome extensions

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Re: How hucksters are manipulating Google to promote shady Chrome extensions

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Yeah there are far cheaper ways to “distract” from a monopoly than building Waymo from scratch. Alleging that whole project exists only as a smokescreen is pretty conspiratorial thinking.

I have had drinks with Peter Thiel. If you force him to answer more than one question about his theories it totally falls apart. Mostly the logic actually goes like this: oh if it doesn’t work I have the money to survive it and you don’t so I still win and claim I was right. I wish more people understood this.

In the essay, _"The Silicon Valley Canon: On the Paideía of the American Tech Elite essays"_ the author writes

> If the Washington intellectual aims for authority and expertise, the Silicon Valley intellectual seeks novel or counter-intuitive insights. He claims to judge ideas on their utility; in practice I find he cares mostly for how interesting an idea first seems. He likes concepts that force him to puzzle and ponder. > This is fertile soil for the dabbler, the heretic, and the philosopher from first principles.

Re: How hucksters are manipulating Google to promote shady Chrome extensions

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Small info piece: Chrome isn't open source. Otherwise I agree (even if it means agreeing with Peter Thiel in this case).

99% of its source is open. I wonder what you think of open source applications that make API calls into closed source cloud systems?

Where does that 99% figure come from?

Re: How hucksters are manipulating Google to promote shady Chrome extensions

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...Was it Honey?

Honey is the new Bonzi Buddy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BonziBuddy

Does this make Chrome the new IE4? (Although I guess most web-"devs" nowadays never experienced IE4...)

Why hasn't there been a major data theft yet exploiting the permissiveness of the Chrome extension ecosystem, it's a disaster waiting to happen...

Re: How hucksters are manipulating Google to promote shady Chrome extensions

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I agree, I think it's not a deep insight, but Thiel notes (in his 'zero to one' speech he gave) that Google actively pretends not to be a search advertising monopoly, and instead pretends to be a competitive technology company, in a wide range of technology fields, to "hide" their monopoly. Thiel is openly advocating monopolies, and says competition is for losers. I think he's just calling GOOG out for their marketin…

I never had the illusion that Google makes their money from Pixel phones... It was always advertising.

You are keenly insightful in this age of the willingly blind.

Their technology products are free/low cost ways to get you to voluntarily opt in to their surveillance advertising model.

Re: How hucksters are manipulating Google to promote shady Chrome extensions

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Yeah there are far cheaper ways to “distract” from a monopoly than building Waymo from scratch. Alleging that whole project exists only as a smokescreen is pretty conspiratorial thinking.

I have had drinks with Peter Thiel. If you force him to answer more than one question about his theories it totally falls apart. Mostly the logic actually goes like this: oh if it doesn’t work I have the money to survive it and you don’t so I still win and claim I was right. I wish more people understood this.

His lack of depth is obvious even from his speeches. He jumps from topic to topic and doesn't develop his ideas or show much internal organization. He has a pithy insight and then bounces to the next topic.

That said, if a 60 minute talk can provide even one useful insight that's useful, I'd say it's a win. And I think his "zero to one" talk had at least two or three.

Honestly, I concluded GOOG was an advertising company pretending to be a "tech" company some time ago, but if I say it I'm a "troll", if Thiel says it, well it might be true, right?

Re: How hucksters are manipulating Google to promote shady Chrome extensions

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99% of its source is open. I wonder what you think of open source applications that make API calls into closed source cloud systems?

Where does that 99% figure come from?

I think it's 100% open source chromium, minus some unknown percentage that's closed source surveillance blobs = ~99%. That's the maths I'm inferring.

Re: How hucksters are manipulating Google to promote shady Chrome extensions

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I have two Chrome extensions in the store. They're not very popular and are really just features I wanted for my own use. I think I have less than 100 users total. At least once a week I get emails from people - offering money to add their "tracking" code - wanting to purchased the extension outright What they clearly want is access to my modest install base to push questionable code onto. I certainly am not going fo…

They stopped emailing me eventually when I started responding with silly replies, these are some of the emails I got about Control Panel for Twitter (~220,000 users on Chrome):

https://github.com/insin/control-panel-for-twitter/issues/38...

Some of them work in the open, I've had emails from the people behind this scam:

https://palant.info/2024/10/01/lies-damned-lies-and-impact-h...

Re: How hucksters are manipulating Google to promote shady Chrome extensions

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I have two Chrome extensions in the store. They're not very popular and are really just features I wanted for my own use. I think I have less than 100 users total. At least once a week I get emails from people - offering money to add their "tracking" code - wanting to purchased the extension outright What they clearly want is access to my modest install base to push questionable code onto. I certainly am not going fo…

They stopped emailing me eventually when I started responding with silly replies, these are some of the emails I got about Control Panel for Twitter (~220,000 users on Chrome): https://github.com/insin/control-panel-for-twitter/issues/38... Some of them work in the open, I've had emails from the people behind this scam: https://palant.info/2024/10/01/lies-damned-lies-and-impact-h...

Oh man, I loved your work.

Re: How hucksters are manipulating Google to promote shady Chrome extensions

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I have two Chrome extensions in the store. They're not very popular and are really just features I wanted for my own use. I think I have less than 100 users total. At least once a week I get emails from people - offering money to add their "tracking" code - wanting to purchased the extension outright What they clearly want is access to my modest install base to push questionable code onto. I certainly am not going fo…

This is a worry!

Re: How hucksters are manipulating Google to promote shady Chrome extensions

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I have had drinks with Peter Thiel. If you force him to answer more than one question about his theories it totally falls apart. Mostly the logic actually goes like this: oh if it doesn’t work I have the money to survive it and you don’t so I still win and claim I was right. I wish more people understood this.

His lack of depth is obvious even from his speeches. He jumps from topic to topic and doesn't develop his ideas or show much internal organization. He has a pithy insight and then bounces to the next topic. That said, if a 60 minute talk can provide even one useful insight that's useful, I'd say it's a win. And I think his "zero to one" talk had at least two or three. Honestly, I concluded GOOG was an advertising com…

Advertising is the highest tech problem you can tackle. It literally is about using compute to bend the will of humans. How do you not get that?
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