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Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China
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Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China
#52Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China
#53Internet and CDNs has unique restrictions and requirements in China.
Not everyone will want to play ball.
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#54China never has and never will offer a level playing field for non-Chinese companies. The US is finally starting to act in kind, and should continue to do so.
I thought we don't want to be like China? You aren't going to spread your form of "democracy" across the world by doing what the "oppressive" regimes are doing.
One person's/entity's freedom and rights end where anothers start. :)
Beginning with choice.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tit for tat taxation or restrictions on businesses are not related at all to democracy.
> restrictions on businesses are not related at all to democracy. I guess we've dropped the whole "Global fair trade leads to a more free, peaceful and democratic world" argument that used to be so popular?
> I guess we've dropped the whole "Global fair trade leads to a more free, peaceful and democratic world" argument that used to be so popular?
Global Free Trade is based on the Stag Hunt Principle - all players need to be aligned to cooperate in order to "hunt the stag".
If players decide they wish to undermine the principle of fair trade, then they should be isolated.
For example, if China has banned FB or Google from operating without Chinese government oversight, then we should do the same with TikTok and WeChat.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought we don't want to be like China? You aren't going to spread your form of "democracy" across the world by doing what the "oppressive" regimes are doing.
We don’t. But if we keep throwing companies into the grinder like this where all their IP is stolen and they are just replicated in China on an unfair playing field, we end up losing anyways regardless of intent.
Another way to go is not to participate in the hype cycle of pitching investors instead of pitching customers (marketing and sales) and giving away ideas and opportunities that end up being made elsewhere and not supported where the founders currently are.
Doing the market research and opportunity and presenting it on a stage can be very helpful sometimes, other times it can seem a little head scratching.
It's fine to be open, start with the ICP.
Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China
#57China never has and never will offer a level playing field for non-Chinese companies. The US is finally starting to act in kind, and should continue to do so.
I thought we don't want to be like China? You aren't going to spread your form of "democracy" across the world by doing what the "oppressive" regimes are doing.
Let them be insular. I don't think it should be anyone's mission to "spread democracy". If people want it, they need to fight for it for themselves.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought we don't want to be like China? You aren't going to spread your form of "democracy" across the world by doing what the "oppressive" regimes are doing.
This has nothing to do with democracy, it's about trying to keep a level playing field. The US has been trying to open trade with China since the 70s, and until China stops doing this the US has to adjust trade policy to keep things fair. Free and open trade is a two way street, otherwise it's just charity to the bad faith actor.
Basically: Wanting a level playing field does not mean allowing yourself to be exploited.
If you’re in the Olympics and your competitor is doping, you shouldn’t practice doping yourself, but you can refuse to compete.
Re: Akamai to shut down its CDN operations in China
#59China never has and never will offer a level playing field for non-Chinese companies. The US is finally starting to act in kind, and should continue to do so.
I thought we don't want to be like China? You aren't going to spread your form of "democracy" across the world by doing what the "oppressive" regimes are doing.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
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It's not a red herring, I was responding to this specific sentence about the US "finally" acting, as if it's a new phenomenon:
>> The US is finally starting to act in kind, and should continue to do so
> No country is a perfect free market, and has some 'sacred cows' that it attempts to protect
This is a more nuanced take that should be the starting off point for any productive discussion around what counts as "fair" trade.
> Jones Act is actually really bad, for America! It should go away! It especially hurts areas like Hawaii and Puerto Rico, but it is generally
Sure, but it's protectionist, and has existed for over a century as proof of American protectionism.