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Party Squasher: guest occupancy counter for homes

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Re: Party Squasher: guest occupancy counter for homes

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One could safely assume that such a tool would likely be illegal in the EU, anyways, since that’s rather a lot of data collection activity to expose a homeowner to.

They claim on the website that their product is GDPR compliant. They aren't collecting any personally identifiable data.

Mmhm.

Re: Party Squasher: guest occupancy counter for homes

#52

The nice thing of intrusive sensors that sense things that are not sensed by your usual senses, like this, is that it's easy to saturate them while faking innocence. I.e., set up your laptop so that it does many scans and/or associations to the local WiFi, and then some light internet activity (the usual suspects: WhatsApp, Facebook, etc). The detector triggers, the landlord shows up to check what's going on, you sho…

what's the end goal? To convince the owner that the occupancy counter is malfunctioning for a couple days and then after that throw a big party? Maybe you can just ask if it's okay to host a party before renting..

Re: Party Squasher: guest occupancy counter for homes

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why turn off the phone? Just disable wifi???

Disabling WiFi on many phones doesn't actually disable wifi scanning - shopping centres use this to track recurring visits

Yes location services typically uses wifi scanning first, and GPS only when high accuracy location updates are needed. (since its lower battery drain and faster)

Re: Party Squasher: guest occupancy counter for homes

#54

So what happens if I'm a tech nerd that has so many devices that I bring with me? Laptop, phone, tablet, streaming device, second phone because gotta keep work/life separate, and then spouse's phone, tablet, then 2.5 kids worth of tablets. Based on device count alone, we're partying like it's 1999.

The property owner/manager gives you a call and says hey are you throwing a party

Re: Party Squasher: guest occupancy counter for homes

#55

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This isn't a landlord / tenant device. It's for AirBnB hosts.

¿Porque no los dos?

There’s no reason for a landlord to get one of these since they aren’t allowed to stop people from having parties and even tracking this could be a violation of rental laws in most countries.

Re: Party Squasher: guest occupancy counter for homes

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post #42

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why turn off the phone? Just disable wifi???

Disabling WiFi on many phones doesn't actually disable wifi scanning - shopping centres use this to track recurring visits

you're confusing disabling wifi and the temporary disconnect mode.

Re: Party Squasher: guest occupancy counter for homes

#57

Pretty sure I saw a couple of party detection devices shown on some netflix airBnb creators show like 8(?) years ago. (show had a firehouse in DC revamp, then another episode with a california(?) 70's pad with 70s furniture, decor, pool.. definitely the kind of place you may want to party, yet the owners were hesitant to list it if they could not prevent that... I believe they used a combination of sound dB meters an…

Carbon dioxide* detectors, people don’t produce carbon monoxide

>> I believe they used a combination of sound dB meters and carbon monoxide detectors to determine approx number of people and how loud they were.

> Carbon dioxide* detectors, people don’t produce carbon monoxide

Wouldn't smokers produce carbon monoxide when they smoked? That might be something they'd be legitimately interested in.

Re: Party Squasher: guest occupancy counter for homes

#58
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why are Landlords like this?

Parties don’t maximize profit. No fun is an externality of short-term rental apps.

Isn't there a legitimate problem with people renting AirB&Bs to specifically to throw wild parties, so they don't have to give a shit about the neighbors?

I mean, having your neighbor's place all the sudden turn into an unauthorized hotel is annoying enough, but it's be even worse if the hotel guests are also throwing parties. It seems like this devices is actually a conscientious way to try to limit those negative externalities.

Re: Party Squasher: guest occupancy counter for homes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

¿Porque no los dos?

There’s no reason for a landlord to get one of these since they aren’t allowed to stop people from having parties and even tracking this could be a violation of rental laws in most countries.

In my experience as a tenant, landlords don't tend to follow rental law too closely. I understand the incentives and how difficult tenants can be, and I don't envy their position (I've been on the other side too, helping manage an apartment complex). But most tenants don't push back hard enough for landlords to follow the letter.
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