I'm nearly certain it's irrelevant but it does make me wonder where parts of the rockets used to launch the ballistic missiles that were recently put into hostile action would have landed.
Object that fell from the skies identified as separation ring from a rocket
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Re: Object that fell from the skies identified as separation ring from a rocket
#52"compensating locals shocked by the fallen object." Good luck with that. Anyone know what's the going rate for a startle? :-/ Actual damage would be one thing, but this is simply an absurd attempted cash grab.
There are laws against littering.
Re: Object that fell from the skies identified as separation ring from a rocket
#53How come no one has pointed out that this could be a conspiracy for a cash grab?
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#54The charts showing the growth of the number of objects in orbit in recent years are wild. I have to expect this will be a lot more common going forward.
Re: Object that fell from the skies identified as separation ring from a rocket
#55"compensating locals shocked by the fallen object." Good luck with that. Anyone know what's the going rate for a startle? :-/ Actual damage would be one thing, but this is simply an absurd attempted cash grab.
There are laws against littering.
Certainly, but that's a very different legal theory from 'compensation for shock.'
Incidentally, littering fines for space debris don't have the greatest track record of enforceability.[1]
[1] https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/70708/nasas-unpaid-400-l...
Re: Object that fell from the skies identified as separation ring from a rocket
#56I'm nearly certain it's irrelevant but it does make me wonder where parts of the rockets used to launch the ballistic missiles that were recently put into hostile action would have landed.
Somewhere in between the launcher and the target. Ballistic missiles fly a near-parabolic sub-orbital trajectory. That also means that everything on the missile reenters and crashes (or reaches the target) within minutes of the launch. This is a matter or energy management. If your payload (the warhead) is going to land somewhere on Earth, why waste energy in flinging it on a high-velocity (possibly orbital) trajectory when that energy could be used to loft more of the payload (a heavier warhead) directly at the target?
There are a few cases where this concept of lowest-energy trajectory is not followed. One of them is a lofted-trajectory launch. The missile flies a higher ballistic trajectory than what's necessary to reach the target. This is sometimes used for missile tests or for target ranges less than the missile's maximum range. However, this is also a sub-orbital trajectory and behaves more or less the same as before.
Another case is the Fractional Orbital Bombardment System (FOBS) where the warhead enters a low orbit and then deorbits towards the target. Space debris situations like in this story (where the rocket body lands well away from the target, long after the launch) can possibly occur in FOBS launches. However, this isn't very energy efficient. It's main advantage is that it's harder to detect and intercept, since its orbital trajectory is much lower than a pure ballistic trajectory. Even then, some countries can knock them out in orbit using ASAT (anti-sat) detectors and interceptors. It's not that commonly used, except in combination with other technologies like hypersonic gliding and waveriding.
Re: Object that fell from the skies identified as separation ring from a rocket
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
The rust does stand out as kind odd, not many aerospace materials rust??? How fast would you have to spin a gear ring to say, launch it on a ballistic trajectory and have it go supersonic? Maybe a factory somewhere had a _really_ catastrophic accident?
There have been a bunch of very powerful non-nuclear explosions. Perhaps a part of an exploding ship such as in the halifax explosion or the Princess Irene?
Where is the rest of the exploded ship, in that case?
Re: Object that fell from the skies identified as separation ring from a rocket
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lots of rocket components look like gears. The outside skin of the rocket often had internal vertical stringers and so components need cutouts that end up looking a bit like gears
true, but I guess I have never heard of an 8' diameter rocket before...
SpaceX notwithstanding, it's pretty common for orbital rockets to "neck down" for upper stages.
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#59The charts showing the growth of the number of objects in orbit in recent years are wild. I have to expect this will be a lot more common going forward.
How many people will have to be fatally injured before international laws put seriously painful financial fines on companies dropping crap from space? Or will my fantasy come true that all roads, infrastructure, homes and businesses move underground?
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're just making stuff up? Photos show diameter is larger than human height, maybe 8'. Only indication it's "solid steel" is you said it is.
sorry, I estimated from the grainy footage. Relax, man...
No, you're deliberately being a contrarian. Dismissing the official story, witnesses, and other experts, because you feel like you're smarter.
Then you tell people to relax when they dare question you. How about you relax, man?