I was hoping to find a part 2, but since part 1 was written over 2 years ago I guess there's not much chance of that...
Yep, all bait, no meat
Nokia 5110 – Back from the Dead (2022)
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Re: Nokia 5110 – Back from the Dead (2022)
#52Pro tip: don't buy the new versions "Nokia 3210 2024" and similar models. I did, two times, with slightly different models, and they are of exceptionally poor quality: dead after one year, very buggy firmware. The customer support is an AI with no real answer. They recommended to install an app "from the Google Play app store" which is nonsense for a dumbphone. They are very cheap noname phones, branded with the name…
I bought an XR20 a few years ago and it's still running fine, and still receiving OS updates.
Re: Nokia 5110 – Back from the Dead (2022)
#53I'm not too well-versed in hardware - is it really that easy to swap out a 2G modem with a 4G modem and have it "just work" without touching the drivers? Even if the baseband/modem chips miraculously do conform perfectly to some I/O protocol at the hardware level despite being multiple generations apart, wouldn't the difference in timings break whatever firmware the Nokia 5110 has, which was expecting only a single v…
No, of course not. That's why this article is two years old without an update.
Re: Nokia 5110 – Back from the Dead (2022)
#54I recenly bought a Nokia 6300, not as a main mobile phone but because it includes Tethering, it is very light, changeable battery, practical as a mobile hotspot. It also has WhatsApp though.
> It also has WhatsApp though. Not for much longer. I also got a Nokia 6300 to use for tethering and it works well for that.
Good to know! Thankfully, WhatsApp is just a minor detail in this context: tethering is the core feature. I'm curious, how has your battery performance been while using tethering?
Re: Nokia 5110 – Back from the Dead (2022)
#55I'm not too well-versed in hardware - is it really that easy to swap out a 2G modem with a 4G modem and have it "just work" without touching the drivers? Even if the baseband/modem chips miraculously do conform perfectly to some I/O protocol at the hardware level despite being multiple generations apart, wouldn't the difference in timings break whatever firmware the Nokia 5110 has, which was expecting only a single v…
No, it's like reusing keyboard and monitor for a new PC. This phone uses those parts fully separated from the computer part that the author argues it should be possible to remake just the host computer part to recreate the experience.
4G doesn't even have a proper voice call support, and substitutes that with a carrier grade Discord type thing called VoLTE(oversimplification). Zero chance old firmware could work.
Re: Nokia 5110 – Back from the Dead (2022)
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It also has WhatsApp though. Not for much longer. I also got a Nokia 6300 to use for tethering and it works well for that.
Good to know! Thankfully, WhatsApp is just a minor detail in this context: tethering is the core feature. I'm curious, how has your battery performance been while using tethering?
You need to keep it connected to the charger when tethering.
Re: Nokia 5110 – Back from the Dead (2022)
#57I was hoping to find a part 2, but since part 1 was written over 2 years ago I guess there's not much chance of that...
> "Thanks mostly to the phones age, interfacing with the UI board will be rather trivial"
I guess part 2 was left as an exercise for the reader.
Re: Nokia 5110 – Back from the Dead (2022)
#58It's such an odd problem from my perspective as someone who doesn't live in a western country! We still have 2G on all carriers and seemingly no plans to shut it down. So, if you want to use an old (GSM) phone, it's a non-issue, you just pop your modern SIM card into it and it just works :)
In my country (Poland) a bunch of networks recently switched off 3G and a lot of 4G services in favour of LTE only... A pretty good mobile service I enjoyed at my country home for over a decade had suddenly turned to crap... (at least I have faster Internet access now, but I can't strap a directional antenna to a mobile phone).
> bunch of networks recently switched off 3G and a lot of 4G services in favour of LTE only
You mean 2G and 3G in favor of 3.95G LTE, AKA 4G.
Re: Nokia 5110 – Back from the Dead (2022)
#59Sound incredible ! I like the word "simply" in this sentence > i will simply be able to recreate the baseboard with the new 4G module, a microcontroller, and some audio processing and power management circuitry and it will be able to seamlessly fit inside the phone. Seems like a bigger project than the author would let us think ! But I hope to see the PCB soon !
Especially funny as article is from 2022 Nov.
Author conjured a primordial black hole by working on an Nokia and was never heard from again.
Re: Nokia 5110 – Back from the Dead (2022)
#60Pro tip: don't buy the new versions "Nokia 3210 2024" and similar models. I did, two times, with slightly different models, and they are of exceptionally poor quality: dead after one year, very buggy firmware. The customer support is an AI with no real answer. They recommended to install an app "from the Google Play app store" which is nonsense for a dumbphone. They are very cheap noname phones, branded with the name…
They clearly don't have the old code base, workforce to hypothetically adapt it to VoLTE, or factories to manufacture the phones. New Nokia TA-xxxx phones use MediaTek/Unisoc(Spreadtrum) SoC and MediaTek MAUI software rebranded as "S30+". Which means those are reskinned Chinese phones.
Old Nokia had RM-xxx or RX-xxx model numbers, so it's also clear that some of their corpo structure did survive.