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Rough when you have 200 students.
Rough, but perfectly doable. It's how pretty much all my finals were done way back when. Classes of 200 and more.
We’ve built a solution in conjunction with a university to this problem that is pretty low effort to implement, but very few professors can be bothered to even try it out (the apathy and red tape is unreal). Honestly, it has been disheartening that distribution is so tough, as the results have been great for those who are using it.
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Why do we teach kids how to do basic arithmetic by hand? After all, calculators are basically ubiquitous at this point. Why waste the time teaching a skill that's not necessary as an adult? The reason is because doing arithmetic by hand teaches kids how math actually works, while using a calculator just teaches them how to find the answer. This base-level understanding is crucial for understanding more advanced math.…
> Why do we teach kids how to do basic arithmetic by hand? I think kids waste way too much time doing hard arithmetic by hand. As a particularly egregious example, I visited a Montessori primary school where they demonstrated what is essentially a complex single player board game, for calculating square roots by hand. It's a process whereby a 5th grader would take ~10 minutes to calculate the root of a 3 digit number…
I also think this argument means that theoretically someone with a 6th grade education and a 12th grade education should have the same economic output, as they both know how to read and add/multiply numbers. In real life the reason someone drops out before/during high school is always extenuating life circumstances, so the outcomes are much worse for them. But in a world where that didn't happen, do you think the outcomes would be essentially identical?
> “What if I’m doing an MA, or in a job, and everyone got there just by cheating…” This is absolutely the problem here. The work is done, the answers are right, the report is the best anyone has seen, but oh no a fancy new tool was involved so its CHEATING! This is so friggin stupid. When i get my work done I am responsible that it comes out right. When its right, thats just it. - it's right. No matter how i got ther…
Students are typically agreeing to submit original work. It's a breach of the terms they agreed to, so I'm not sure it's so different.
> i would prefer my doctor was great at using chatgpt and checking the results carefully over being taught at an educational institution.
What is checking over the results carefully going to do if your doctor has never been taught medicine?
We’ve built a solution in conjunction with a university to this problem that is pretty low effort to implement, but very few professors can be bothered to even try it out (the apathy and red tape is unreal). Honestly, it has been disheartening that distribution is so tough, as the results have been great for those who are using it.
This is an easy to solve problem: oral exams / interview exams.
I am enormously glad I went to college before these tools existed. I don't know how I would handle myself with access to them.
I did undergrad before chatGPT and now I’m back in school for an MBA at a school where the school pays for all students to have access to GPT4o. Maybe because we’re all older the tools are less of a problem, but I would say they have been a net positive. GPT3 was ass and students could easily tell when a classmate used it for their group contributions. Profs seems to be about 6-12 months behind the curve in terms of…