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Why Publishing on the Windows Phone is Like Walking Barefoot On Broken Glass

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Re: Why Publishing on the Windows Phone is Like Walking Barefoot On Broken Glass

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Post by guard-of-terra »

yen223 wrote: post #37
majormajor wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note the country list: "Indonesia, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iraq, United Arab Emirates"

Malaysian here. We do have a large, extremely devout conservative demographic here, so I can see why Microsoft would choose to be on the safe side. Plenty of foreign artistes were banned from holding concerts here due to perceived lack of morals. On the other hand, our newspapers regularly publish raunchier content without much fanfare. It's a fascinating place really.

It's all about age. Older people impose restrictions on younger people - because they can and enjoy it too.

Who goes to concerts? Younger people. Who reads newspapers? Older people.

Re: Why Publishing on the Windows Phone is Like Walking Barefoot On Broken Glass

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Post by cloudier »

dnuggets wrote: post #46

Horrible article. As someone who has created and published a Windows Phone app before, let me say that it is a pretty smooth experience. Developing with C#/Silverlight is a breeze, and MS has a good developer portal set up. The majority of the problems described in the article sound like the fault of the developer, not Microsoft. If an app ever gets rejected during the submission process, they list out all the reason…

I agree that this article probably wasn't the best but it does describe major problems for developers of Windows apps, many of which weren't the fault of the developers: they couldn't obtain a developer account simply because Microsoft doesn't allow for it in their country, and Microsoft additionally doesn't have the 'technical ability' to move apps from one account to another which would solve a lot of the issues that the developer describes. Also, the developer states that they weren't told specifically which parts of the app were considered 'immoral', and they didn't exactly have plenty of time to fix the app - their app had already been unavailable to their users for a month. Up to this point, their experience with Windows is similar to Apple's, but the fact that their efforts at promoting their app were thwarted pissed them off, especially after their previous bad experiences. Because of all this, your comment gives the impression that you hadn't read the post.

Why do you find developing for BlackBerry and Apple worse?

Re: Why Publishing on the Windows Phone is Like Walking Barefoot On Broken Glass

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Post by tluyben2 »

dnuggets wrote: post #46

Horrible article. As someone who has created and published a Windows Phone app before, let me say that it is a pretty smooth experience. Developing with C#/Silverlight is a breeze, and MS has a good developer portal set up. The majority of the problems described in the article sound like the fault of the developer, not Microsoft. If an app ever gets rejected during the submission process, they list out all the reason…

Can you point out which apps you created and published?

Re: Why Publishing on the Windows Phone is Like Walking Barefoot On Broken Glass

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Post by batgaijin »

mcantelon wrote: post #29
batgaijin wrote: post #4

They say it's the same problem they would have with the apple/andorid store. Big corp doesn't have nice ways of changing shit, this isn't specific to M$.

android ecosphere's pretty light-handed.

I think the exemption of GPL'd apps because of how they modify them is the primary one that makes me so angry...

Re: Why Publishing on the Windows Phone is Like Walking Barefoot On Broken Glass

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Post by molmalo »

jodoherty wrote: post #33
majormajor wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note the country list: "Indonesia, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iraq, United Arab Emirates"

The offensive content problem may even have something to do with the appearance of their "monster" character being confusingly similar to typical portrayals of the devil (red character with horns), which itself is can be an offensive image in many cultures regardless of context. That's why feedback is so important in these review processes, especially with something so subjective. As an aside, the devil thing isn't i…

Reading this story, its interesting how similar Texas and some places in middle east can be. Dust, deserts, oil, lots of guns, and... fanatics (to avoid calling them fundamentalists).

Re: Why Publishing on the Windows Phone is Like Walking Barefoot On Broken Glass

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Post by the0x »

CWIZO wrote: post #48
dnuggets wrote: post #46

Horrible article. As someone who has created and published a Windows Phone app before, let me say that it is a pretty smooth experience. Developing with C#/Silverlight is a breeze, and MS has a good developer portal set up. The majority of the problems described in the article sound like the fault of the developer, not Microsoft. If an app ever gets rejected during the submission process, they list out all the reason…

Have you even read the article? Most of the problems they had was because Microsoft refuses to acknowledge my country. And there exists Microsoft Slovenia FFS! Also he clearly describes what's wrong with Silverlight and app submission form (can't use space, only works in Safari, etc). He also said that they didn't get any specific reasons as to why the app was rejected.

Maybe it was rejected because your 'quip' sounds like your scanning a users data for juice?

Re: Why Publishing on the Windows Phone is Like Walking Barefoot On Broken Glass

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Post by dscrd »

majormajor wrote: post #32
SwellJoe wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's inaccurate. HTC had a record-setting quarter with the introduction of the G1 at the end of 2008, and the Dream was also a bestselling device. By the second year Android was outselling iPhone (which had been the fastest selling phone in history up to that point). Android was, by all reasonable measures, an explosive and rapid success. One could argue it took a few months to "take off", but its sales numbers hav…

It's fantastic. Either it'll eventually take off, or else either Apple or Google will copy all the good ideas and I'll switch back. Either way works for me, frankly. (Well, no, that's not entirely true. I'd prefer it take off next year and Nokia survives intact, because nobody else is making hardware that isn't hopelessly bland looking.)

>because nobody else is making hardware that isn't hopelessly bland looking

I think the Sony Ericsson lineup from 2011 was quite pretty and managed to differentiate themselves quite well from the bland Android crowd. Even the hit Samsung phones are quite ugly in my opinion.

It's all subjective, though, but I still like my phones small.

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