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Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by AnarchismIsCool »

maz1b wrote: post #12

It seems a bit.. abrasive and brash to label this an eating disorder, no? As a doctor and technical founder/CEO myself, I really like patients who are into their own health and fitness, obviously this guy has the means and resources to take it to an extreme, but I think the lesson he wants to impart is that there are benefits to investing in your own health, the same as people invest in self-tooling such as expensive…

Uh are you a psychiatrist because it doesn't sound like it? This definitely looks like it could meet DSM criteria as an eating disorder.

To the muggles out there, generally speaking non psychiatric doctors (and many older, out of date psych professionals for that matter) know about as much about modern psych diagnostic criteria as a potato.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by unclad5968 »

maz1b wrote: post #12

It seems a bit.. abrasive and brash to label this an eating disorder, no? As a doctor and technical founder/CEO myself, I really like patients who are into their own health and fitness, obviously this guy has the means and resources to take it to an extreme, but I think the lesson he wants to impart is that there are benefits to investing in your own health, the same as people invest in self-tooling such as expensive…

It's inappropriate in general to diagnose people with psych disorders based on their social media and public persona

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by RonaldDump »

AnarchismIsCool wrote: post #51
maz1b wrote: post #12

It seems a bit.. abrasive and brash to label this an eating disorder, no? As a doctor and technical founder/CEO myself, I really like patients who are into their own health and fitness, obviously this guy has the means and resources to take it to an extreme, but I think the lesson he wants to impart is that there are benefits to investing in your own health, the same as people invest in self-tooling such as expensive…

Uh are you a psychiatrist because it doesn't sound like it? This definitely looks like it could meet DSM criteria as an eating disorder. To the muggles out there, generally speaking non psychiatric doctors (and many older, out of date psych professionals for that matter) know about as much about modern psych diagnostic criteria as a potato.

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Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by hattmall »

itishappy wrote: post #44
IncreasePosts wrote: post #39

From the author: Some of the strategies I employ include: I put a prime on sleep, diet, and exercise. I optimize my hormones. I downregulate the mTOR pathway. I take pharmaceutical drugs aimed at improving metabolic health. I employ several behavioral, hormonal, and pharmaceutical strategies to delay cancer, atherosclerosis, and neurodegeneration. I cleared my body of (some) senescent cells with senolytic drugs. I mo…

The critique was not his use of pharmaceuticals. The author even mentioned he adopted a supplement straight out of Bryan's regimen.

Yes, but to the normal person, they both seem wildly obsessive. My acute observation is simply that anyone who has that much time and energy to think about and experiment with "biohacking" is clearly lacking in some other areas of life. In particular the author here mentions that his number one intervention / beneficial "hack" has been increasing human connection.

But it seems painfully obvious that with such a large amount of focus poured into one area, not to mention being in medical school, they are clearly not maximizing in that area. Most people are simply much too busy with actual human stuff to go so deep into this area. The other side of that being that when you are that busy you don't feel the need to delve so deep into an area because you are meeting those targets organically.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by voisin »

mplewis wrote: post #29
voisin wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but at some point you have to admit that it's over I am confused by what you mean. Being lean should be a goal throughout life, no?

No? What makes you think that lean is the optimal body state for all individuals?

High body fat is correlated with all sorts of negative health outcomes, no?

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by romanobro56 »

I will never understand how Bryan Johnson is helping anybody. Ok, if he lives longer then what? Do we all have to do what he does (impossible)? How is he contributing at all to science? He is a walking confounding variable. Even if he succeeds in living a long time, humanity won’t be able to take anything away from it.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by jmcgough »

romanobro56 wrote: post #58

I will never understand how Bryan Johnson is helping anybody. Ok, if he lives longer then what? Do we all have to do what he does (impossible)? How is he contributing at all to science? He is a walking confounding variable. Even if he succeeds in living a long time, humanity won’t be able to take anything away from it.

Yep. There's nothing scientific about trying 1000 different treatments on yourself. You'll probably drive more interest in the field if you live to be 120 or something, but that's about it. Mostly reeks of ego, selfishness, and a fear of his own mortality.

Speaking as a healthcare worker, people in this country don't need a longer lifespan, they need a better quality of life. Most Americans become pretty sick by their 40s-50s due to lifestyle, diet, and lack of access to healthcare. You have hypertension and/or diabetes in your 30s, which progresses to chronic kidney disease in your 40s, and by your 50s you're spending half the week sitting in a chair getting dialysis. His wealth has made him so far removed from the reality of most people.

Re: The Most Expensive Eating Disorder

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Post by missinglugnut »

unclad5968 wrote: post #54
maz1b wrote: post #12

It seems a bit.. abrasive and brash to label this an eating disorder, no? As a doctor and technical founder/CEO myself, I really like patients who are into their own health and fitness, obviously this guy has the means and resources to take it to an extreme, but I think the lesson he wants to impart is that there are benefits to investing in your own health, the same as people invest in self-tooling such as expensive…

It's inappropriate in general to diagnose people with psych disorders based on their social media and public persona

I generally agree that we shouldn't armchair diagnose people, especially not for gossip's sake. But in this case Bryan is actively promoting a lifestyle which looks symptomatic of a disorder, so it's probably in the public interest to point that out.

The post author did so in a thoughtful and respectful manner.

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