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Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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With programmers, hackers, computer scientists, systems designers/engineers carrying some of the most privileged skillsets needed for designing and implementing replacements to systems of oppression (and disruptions to said systems), I've been wondering where the ones working to do this can be found. I learned in Computer Ethics 101 about how the history of the development of radiological machines led to the realizat…

This is the main reason I built https://chitchatter.im/. I hope to see it be used as a tool to safely organize around building a better world.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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> Police revealed that finding the 26-year-old was a complete surprise, and that they did not have his name on a list of suspects prior to today. "I'd rather be lucky than good!" Impressive that they do seem to have found the right guy, based on the documents in his possession, and this was apparently due solely to the one photograph of his face that the police found and released. I also note that this guy apparently…

I wonder if the McDonald's employee really recognized him from those couple of off-angle photos or if Mr. Mangione himself initiated the action in order to let someone "deserving" collect the reward. It seems to me that he wanted to be caught, and the amount of evidence that he was carrying on him is obviously meant to establish his identity beyond any doubt. The amount of meticulous planning he undertook for the actual shooting contrasts with the trail of evidence that he kept dropping along the way. He would've basically never been found if he had just worn a pair of sunglasses.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eric Adams doesn't have a strong reality filter, and it's usually good to cross-check things he says, especially if he's the only person saying them. I don't think he consciously makes things up, he just tends to gravitate towards saying things that sound good in the moment. Or, if we're being really charitable, they were chasing the wrong guy.

All you did was make the phrase "makes things up" more palatable. It still means the same thing. He lies.

I like understanding why people are making things up.

Edit: sorry, I was a bit snarky there and I shouldn't have been. I was in fact splitting a hair there; it's a useful one for me but it's far from obligatory.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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The funniest thing about the whole thing to me is that we have had privacy taken away or even voluntarily given it up to the police state in the name of security and then this guy randomly walks up and offs a member of the 1% and the only reason he got caught was because the feds got lucky.

No, because he was sloppy and lowered his mask...

It still came down to an old guy recognizing him in a McDonalds.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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>Police revealed that finding the 26-year-old was a complete surprise, and that they did not have his name on a list of suspects prior to today So when they said they knew who he was yesterday it was a lie.

RE "....when they said they knew who he was yesterday it was a lie....."

Was an obvious lie ...was my first reaction.

If they did know the name - it could have been used to retrieve numerous photos - and other evidence. That said the accused person left several of their online profiles online . even a facebook profile !!!

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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> Mr Mangione previously worked as a programming intern for Fixarixis, a video game developer. What? Do they mean Firaxis? Devs of some Civilization and X-Com versions?

Yeah, there are screenshots of his LinkedIn floating around that show he apparently did Bugfixes on CIV 6. (The profile has since been scrubbed of course)

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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If I was the CEO of a company and I made repeated conscious choices to deliberately deny people a life-saving service they paid for so I could get a slightly higher obscenely large bonus, I'd expect people to try and extract revenge. UHC deliberately denied coverage to millions of people, at least hundreds of whom died as a result. Right now experts are saying that 7 out of 10 juries wouldn't vote to convict Luigi, a…

I am skeptical that unh is denying more than other insurers. Since half their business is physician practices, they actually make more money treating the patients. Also they have more physicians on staff making decisions than competition, and I would rather doctors are more involved in those decisions than mba’s. in fact they are probably too effective, and the competition is running scared looking for antitrust protection.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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OK, but none of my customers die because I said no to a liver transplant.

We don't have enough livers for every transplant case; someone needs to say no to some of them. If you think that's necessarily an evil act, you need to think harder.

The issue I see with all this is the anger isn't because this CEO denied claims that should have been accepted (that would be reasonable anger), it's that they denied claims at all. How do people expect insurance to work? An insurance company that never denies claims doesn't stay in business.

(And obviously, yes, I think the US healthcare system is lousy. But in the system you have now, you have insurance companies, and they need to operate in the real world.)

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