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Re: Amazon Nova

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Technical report is available here https://www.amazon.science/publications/the-amazon-nova-fami...

TL;DR comparison of models vs frontier models on public benchmarks here https://imgur.com/a/CKMIhmm

This doesn't include all the benchmarks.

The one that really stands out is GroundUI-1K, where it beats the competition by 46%.

Nova Pro looks like it could be a SOTA-comparable model at a lower price point.

Re: Amazon Nova

#52

It's really amusing how bad Amazon is at writing and designing UI. For a company of their size and scope it's practically unforgivable. But they always get away with it.

It's similarly amazing how long the YouTube home page takes to load, but it's a top 5 destination no matter how bad its Lighthouse Score is.

Re: Amazon Nova

#53

A rough idea of the price differences... Per 1k tokens Input | Output Amazon Nova Micro: $0.000035 | $0.00014 Amazon Nova Lite: $0.00006 | $0.00024 Amazon Nova Pro: $0.0008 | $0.0032 Claude 3.5 Sonnet: $0.003 | $0.015 Claude 3.5 Haiku: $0.0008 | $0.0004 Claude 3 Opus: $0.015 | $0.075 Source: AWS Bedrock Pricing https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/pricing/

Has anyone found TPM/RPM limits on Nova? Either they aren't limited, or the quotas haven't been published yet: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/general/latest/gr/bedrock.html#l...

Maybe they want to gauge demand for a bit first?

Re: Amazon Nova

#54

It's really amusing how bad Amazon is at writing and designing UI. For a company of their size and scope it's practically unforgivable. But they always get away with it.

> It's really amusing how bad Amazon is at writing and designing UI.

For most of AWS offerings, it literally doesn't matter and logging in to AWS Console is a break glass thing.

Case in point: this very article. It uses boto3 to interface with AWS.

Re: Amazon Nova

#55
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It's really amusing how bad Amazon is at writing and designing UI. For a company of their size and scope it's practically unforgivable. But they always get away with it.

You say they "get away with it," but it makes more sense to conclude that UI design has a lot lower ROI than we assume it does as users.

Oh I'm sure, the ACM UI was impossible to use for years to find certificates, they improved it, but, it will never have the same level of functionality that the API gives you and that's the bread and butter.

Re: Amazon Nova

#56
> The Nova family of models were trained on Amazon’s custom Trainium1 (TRN1) chips,10 NVidia A100 (P4d instances), and H100 (P5 instances) accelerators. Working with AWS SageMaker, we stood up NVidia GPU and TRN1 clusters and ran parallel trainings to ensure model performance parity

Does this mean they trained multiple copies of the models?

Re: Amazon Nova

#57
No audio support: The models are currently trained to process and understand video content solely based on the visual information in the video. They do not possess the capability to analyze or comprehend any audio components that are present in the video.

This is blowing my mind. gemini-1.5-flash accidentally knows how to transcribe amazingly well but it is -very- hard to figure out how to use it well and now Amazon comes out with a gemini flash like model and it explicitly ignores audio. It is so clear that multi-modal audio would be easy for these models but it is like they are purposefully holding back releasing it/supporting it. This has to be a strategic decision to not attach audio. Probably because the margins on ASR are too high to strip with a cheap LLM. I can only hope Meta will drop a mult-modal audio model to force this soon.

Re: Amazon Nova

#59

A rough idea of the price differences... Per 1k tokens Input | Output Amazon Nova Micro: $0.000035 | $0.00014 Amazon Nova Lite: $0.00006 | $0.00024 Amazon Nova Pro: $0.0008 | $0.0032 Claude 3.5 Sonnet: $0.003 | $0.015 Claude 3.5 Haiku: $0.0008 | $0.0004 Claude 3 Opus: $0.015 | $0.075 Source: AWS Bedrock Pricing https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/pricing/

I suggest you give the price per million token as seems to be the standard.

Re: Amazon Nova

#60
I really wish they would left-justify instead of center-justify the pricing information so I'm not sitting here counting zeroes and trying to figure out how they all line up.
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