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South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Is there a specific Trump policy you're referring to? It sounds like the reverse to me.

The dems falsely painted him as alternately sympathising with / controlled by Russia. I may have missed it but haven't seen him do likewise.

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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post #51
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Is there a specific Trump policy you're referring to? It sounds like the reverse to me. The dems falsely painted him as alternately sympathising with / controlled by Russia. I may have missed it but haven't seen him do likewise.

Yes

See the following:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capi...

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Orwell being so right about governments using the constant threat of a virtual enemy has got to be one of the all time top on the money predictions ever. Up there with gravity and shit. I wish we could do something with this information, but alas, knowledge isnt power. Cersei Lannister: Power is power.

>Orwell being so right about governments using the constant threat of a virtual enemy has got to be one of the all time top on the money predictions ever.

The way modern states leverage external threats to justify abusing people or waging their own external wars is fairly parallel to how the less top heavy kingdoms of the middle ages and early modern period used religion as a justification for comparable atrocities.

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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I feel like I'd seen absolutely nothing about South Korea in the news for a long time, and then suddenly woke up to this, with zero context.

Do folks have any recommendations for how to keep up with global news at a high level so that you're not completely clueless when something like this happens? Like I mean some sort of "international edition" of an aggregator like Google News, I guess.

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was Trump, however, that tried to perform an autogolpe so the comparison fits

That's nice. But it has nothing to do with what OP said.

I interpreted it as being Trumpian to perform a coup in an otherwise stable democracy. But YMMV on interpretation

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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I feel like I'd seen absolutely nothing about South Korea in the news for a long time, and then suddenly woke up to this, with zero context. Do folks have any recommendations for how to keep up with global news at a high level so that you're not completely clueless when something like this happens? Like I mean some sort of "international edition" of an aggregator like Google News, I guess.

You are not alone. Even South Koreans are clueless.

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Can someone ELI5 if this is a huge deal (like declaring martial law would be in the west), or if this is the equivalent of a "government shutdown" when similar budget impasses occur in the US?

Massive deal. South Korea is a new democracy and sudden impositions of martial law harken back to the 1970s-80s when military rule existed. Best case, this is a blatant attempt at a self coup d'etat. Worst case, North Korea actually engaged in war.

Worst case, South Korea starts a war with North Korea so the president can cling to power.

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Can someone ELI5 if this is a huge deal (like declaring martial law would be in the west), or if this is the equivalent of a "government shutdown" when similar budget impasses occur in the US?

> President Yoon Suk Yeol declared an “emergency martial law,” Tuesday accusing the country’s opposition of controlling the parliament [...] Yoon — whose approval rating has dipped in recent months — Seems like a coup. > Yoon’s conservative People Power Party had been locked in an impasse with the liberal opposition Democratic Party over next year’s budget bill. Yeah, just like in France where the government is expec…

Not just link in France. France is in the midst of a government fall, but this is something built into how they do democracy and so a new one is expected to form in a few months on the backs of their democratic process.

This is instead a rejection of the democratic process. I don't know enough about SK's internals to say if the democratic process is already dead because of corruption (as the leader claims), or if the leader is trying to kill the process using corruption as a scape goat - but everyone should strongly lean towards the later.

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Can someone familiar with South Korean politics give us some context for what is happening here?

1. Very low trust in politicians after it was revealed former president Park Geun-hye was secretly a crypto-Christian cult member despite claiming to be atheist.

2. South Korea has a bizarre large-scale "gender war" going on that extents into mainstream society. Imagine the Western online MRA/redpill/incel vs. radfem circles but as core identities in national politics.

For some reason a high-trust society has decided to become an ultra-low-trust society where trust is being eradicated all the way down to the nuclear family.

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