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Apple Releases Final Mac OS X Mountain Lion to Developers

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Re: Apple Releases Final Mac OS X Mountain Lion to Developers

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Still filing some radars against this, including the lingering text formatting issue in Mail. If this follows the typical pattern there will be some sys update right after public release.

Apple .0 software always has at least one showstopper.

My favorite was the way the initial release of SL hosed fonts that it decided conflicted with the system ones. Like non-Apple versions of Helvetica. Thanks Apple! ;-)

Re: Apple Releases Final Mac OS X Mountain Lion to Developers

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DRM Chip? What did that crazy rumour come from?

For a couple years, Apple shipped Macs with a TPM[1] chip from Intel. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module

IIRC they only used it for the developer preview Intel boxes, though.

Re: Apple Releases Final Mac OS X Mountain Lion to Developers

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Sorry, that didn't clarify much. Is "very much so buggy as hell" or "very much so fixed"? I'm confused :(

Very much fixed. Apple doesn't ship crap software these days.

If "these days" means since yesterday, sure, I'll give them a chance.

/edit to clarify, 99.9% of the software they ship has at least a few interesting bugs. Just have a look at their changelogs for 10.x.1 :-)

Re: Apple Releases Final Mac OS X Mountain Lion to Developers

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Just bought a new Macbook Pro and have recently gotten my first taste of Lion. Two words: kernel panic. Hoping for a stability boost on this one. No way my entire overpowered system should crash from running a browser, text edit, and Skype.

Do you have any third-party drivers installed? I've been using Lion on a MacBook Pro since release and I've never had a kernel panic.

You might also look into hardware diagnostics — not sure if Apple Hardware Test is still available, but the Genius Bars certainly have something — as intermittent kernel panics from flaky hardware aren't unusual.

Re: Apple Releases Final Mac OS X Mountain Lion to Developers

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Just bought a new Macbook Pro and have recently gotten my first taste of Lion. Two words: kernel panic. Hoping for a stability boost on this one. No way my entire overpowered system should crash from running a browser, text edit, and Skype.

Sounds like a hardware issue. The only time I've ever seen OSX kernel panic is with bad hardware.

Get that sucker replaced.

Re: Apple Releases Final Mac OS X Mountain Lion to Developers

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Can anyone comment if airplay is disabled on pre 2011 macs? I'm going to be royally pissed if airplay is disabled because I'm missing some BS drm chip. Hopefully the era of "Jailbreaking" macs has not started.

If anything it may be a CPU/GPU restriction that holds you back. Modern Intel CPU's have a quicksync feature which is H.264 encode assist in the HD 3000 and 4000 GPU. These features may be required to make airplay mirroring work. Similar hardware is in the A5 chip in the iPad 2 and up, and iPhone 4S and up.

Is quicksync also behind Intel Wireless Display? Despite needing to by special recievers, I've found it pretty handy.

Re: Apple Releases Final Mac OS X Mountain Lion to Developers

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Something very odd is happening at Apple. Either there is a massive shortage of developers (unlikely) or developers have been moved to a new project (AppleTV ?). Because Mountain Lion and iOS6 are by far the most underwhelming updates yet in terms of features.

There are lots of changes for developers, especially in iOS 6. IMO these are releases to enable new apps and new options (for example, one iOS feature just screams "get ready for different screen sizes"). I expect the next one will again focus on end-user features.

Re: Apple Releases Final Mac OS X Mountain Lion to Developers

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Skeumorphism is about taste. You just don’t share Apple’s. Simple as that. As long as it doesn’t impact the UI there is nothing wrong with skeumorphism. Every app can use the notification system. They only can’t use push notifications if they are not in the App Store. Not terribly relevant for the desktop.

I disagree that skeuomorphism is only about taste. It's not just a skin, it also removes and limits functionality. I can even give specific examples. If you have lion, go to your address book. It probably opens and lists people on the left with their details on the right. It looks like a book. Can you group people? It's certainly not obvious that such functionality (which is useful!) exists. Now click the red bookmar…

Of course we can come up with UIs that don't mimic the old school ways of doing things, we had them. Skeuomorphism is absolutely purely about design choices.

The bookmark thing is a bookmark, and it works like one. It saves your place on a page in a book and you use it to go back to one. The little familiar groups icon on the tab tells you where it goes.

I'm not going to argue that some of the functionality of Address Book has been reduced or gone, but it has to do with a decision that Apple made about what they wanted, not directly tied to the fact that the interface is skeuomorphic now.

Re: Apple Releases Final Mac OS X Mountain Lion to Developers

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I disagree that skeuomorphism is only about taste. It's not just a skin, it also removes and limits functionality. I can even give specific examples. If you have lion, go to your address book. It probably opens and lists people on the left with their details on the right. It looks like a book. Can you group people? It's certainly not obvious that such functionality (which is useful!) exists. Now click the red bookmar…

Skeumorphism is purely about looks. If it impacts functionality it’s more than that. If it’s only looks it doesn’t matter and is only about taste.

No

Re: Apple Releases Final Mac OS X Mountain Lion to Developers

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Just bought a new Macbook Pro and have recently gotten my first taste of Lion. Two words: kernel panic. Hoping for a stability boost on this one. No way my entire overpowered system should crash from running a browser, text edit, and Skype.

Check your hardware. xnu is incredibly stable. It may also be a 1.0 driver, considering what you're running it on. You _are_ on the absolute cutting edge of the universe right now, GPU-wise, after all. Lion itself is rock solid.

To toss my hat into the "i haven't had any problems so no one had any problems" ring, I've only seen on kernel panic and that was because I had just put some bad memory in. Lion's gotten way better, make sure you do all the updates and you should be fine.
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