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I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by Aardwolf »

Rastonbury wrote: post #14

Some captchas are getting pretty discriminatory, not everyone lives in the West and can identify the objects they are asking you to. Another recent one sticks out where they asked me to pick a shape as the same number of conoids on screen. If you ask people on a street what a conoids I bet a significant amount will give you blank looks Also at least now I know some people call those markings crosswalks

Also asking things about US traffic signs or markings in countries with different looking traffic signs

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by Spivak »

stanmancan wrote: post #29
isodev wrote: post #21

Why are captchas even a thing still? If folks want to scrape something or build an automation around something, then why not let them do it? They still have to respect the system they're logging in. Not to mention the privacy perk of not exposing your visitors to some captcha service with a dozen or more data subprocessors.

I had to add a captcha to a registration page a couple years ago. Bots were signing up for thousands of fake accounts with other people’s email addresses. The email confirmation we sent would then get reported as spam since the recipient didn’t sign up for our service. Our email provider suspended our account for high spam reports.

I hope the other lesson was the good email verification hygiene of making the user take an affirmative action and click a "verify email" button rather then send it unsolicited.

You essentially had an open public unauthed form that would send an email to any address you typed in it. Surely that alone raises some eyebrows.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by dizhn »

Rastonbury wrote: post #14

Some captchas are getting pretty discriminatory, not everyone lives in the West and can identify the objects they are asking you to. Another recent one sticks out where they asked me to pick a shape as the same number of conoids on screen. If you ask people on a street what a conoids I bet a significant amount will give you blank looks Also at least now I know some people call those markings crosswalks

I routinely have problems with closeup images. To this day I don't know how much of the object I should be selecting? Also what is a traffic light? Is the pole part of it or not? Motorcycles seem to be hard too.

Once it showed me a picture of steps nothing but steps. I think I marked like 15 boxes.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by dkdbejwi383 »

slater wrote: post #39
ta1243 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry I live in the west, what's a "crosswalk" Did you mean to say > not everyone lives in the USA Other things I don't have a clue about - a fire hydrant, yellow taxis, yellow buses (Obviously I do, because of American cultural imperialism through things like Captchas which mean the world has to understand American cultural touchstones)

Please enter your five-digit ZIP code

Mandatory "state" field on forms - if it allows any string I usually enter "mostly liquid"

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by [deleted] »

slater wrote: post #39
ta1243 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry I live in the west, what's a "crosswalk" Did you mean to say > not everyone lives in the USA Other things I don't have a clue about - a fire hydrant, yellow taxis, yellow buses (Obviously I do, because of American cultural imperialism through things like Captchas which mean the world has to understand American cultural touchstones)

Please enter your five-digit ZIP code

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Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by Symbiote »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #49
ta1243 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry I live in the west, what's a "crosswalk" Did you mean to say > not everyone lives in the USA Other things I don't have a clue about - a fire hydrant, yellow taxis, yellow buses (Obviously I do, because of American cultural imperialism through things like Captchas which mean the world has to understand American cultural touchstones)

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In many countries fire hydrants are underground, under an iron or concrete cover. There's very little to see on the street.

There might or might not be a sign marking the location.

Sweden: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Fire_hydrants_in...

UK: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Fire_hydrants_in...

It's also not necessarily relevant to worry about blocking one when parking a car.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by spacebanana7 »

rvnx wrote: post #24
xdennis wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But surely, it's only going to get worse: it will force the de-anonymization of the internet. You already have to provide a phone number for many services. If websites can't trust that their users are authentic they will probably institute even more intrusive checks. I haven't been optimistic about the future of technology for a while now. :'(

In the future I think we will again go to "notarization"/"attestation" of the operating system / hardware. Essentially, the manufacturer of the device + operating system will generate a unique signature per each device, and web browsers will be able to access it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Environment_Integrity

I'm very grateful the WEI proposals were put down. It'd have an enormous privacy impact on normal users, and not give that much protection against bad actors using device farms & similar tools.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by Suppafly »

Rastonbury wrote: post #14

Some captchas are getting pretty discriminatory, not everyone lives in the West and can identify the objects they are asking you to. Another recent one sticks out where they asked me to pick a shape as the same number of conoids on screen. If you ask people on a street what a conoids I bet a significant amount will give you blank looks Also at least now I know some people call those markings crosswalks

>conoids

Things that are shaped like cones?

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by remram »

lupusreal wrote: post #8

I hope AI stuff makes captchas completely obsolete soon. I am sick of them. The cure is worse than the disease.

CAPTCHAs already don't work. If they are not annoying enough to turn your customers away, they are very easy for an attacker to pay people to solve.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by Suppafly »

croes wrote: post #45
Rastonbury wrote: post #14

Some captchas are getting pretty discriminatory, not everyone lives in the West and can identify the objects they are asking you to. Another recent one sticks out where they asked me to pick a shape as the same number of conoids on screen. If you ask people on a street what a conoids I bet a significant amount will give you blank looks Also at least now I know some people call those markings crosswalks

But on the internet the answer to „what is a conoid“ is just a web search away. The bigger problem is when other options of a captcha fit in another cultural context. Taxi colors are an example for that.

>But on the internet the answer to „what is a conoid“ is just a web search away.

When I search, the whole first page of google is essentially "things that are shaped like cones", I have no idea what that would be in response to one of those image captchas that show traffic and buildings.

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