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How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by xorcist »

bloopernova wrote: post #3

We used Dokuwiki in a similar situation. It's been a few years since I last used it (new client uses confluence) but I remember it was super easy to connect external tools. If your script can output text, Dokuwiki can display it :) https://www.dokuwiki.org/dokuwiki EDIT: I decided to try dokuwiki in Podman, works nicely as long as you run: podman unshare chown 1000:1000 /path/to/wiki/data https://www.redhat.com/en/bl…

Dokuwiki has been my go-to solution for docs everywhere I've been for the past ten years or so unless they already have a (usable) wiki in place.

Trivial to set up. Trivial to migrate to, and from (should you ever need to). Doesn't need a database. There are lots of plugins available and it's sooo easy to write plugins for. Even if you hate PHP.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by jjmarr »

movedx wrote: post #32
Fabricio20 wrote: post #28

I tried to run Wiki.js in the past but it's really buggy and has a lot of spinners/loading pages for what is supposed to be simple html pages so i've been looking for a good self-hosted alternative since. I love how there are so many options in the HN comments, and some of them look really good as well, however I still struggle to believe that none of them are self-contained. All of them require a a redis container,…

MediaWiki. Is there something wrong with the solution powering Wikipedia? It’s very simple to set up, and you can one-click deploy it on DigitalOcean for $10/month.

MediaWiki doesn't have full WYSIWYG. The Visual Editor is nice, but doesn't support templates.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by rtpg »

I'm kinda sad that there doesn't seem to be a thing that is basically Wikipedia-like but with Google Docs-like shared editing as a "canonical" open source offering in this space. Notion is too much stuff!

Basically want Confluence but faster.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by xyx0826 »

tommoor wrote: post #48
maklu wrote: post #12

Can highly recommend outline ( https://www.getoutline.com/ ). You can self-host or opt for the hosted version. Built and maintained by one of the linear devs.

Outline maintainer here, happy to see the rec and can answer any questions

Thank you for Outline, I used to self-host it for a team and it was a breeze compared to Google Docs or confluence.

Does it support the use case of publishing the wiki as a public documentation site, while allowing authenticated users to edit?

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by 9x39 »

stavros wrote: post #31
maccard wrote: post #23

As much as I hate it, I think Confluence is the right choice for startups. (Or Github Wiki if you can stomach it). It's free to start, and you get 10 users. By the time you have 10 people who need access, (and you can export PDF's of pages if you have one off sharing to do) you pay $50/mo. If you have 10 employees $50/mo is pocket lint.

My problem with Confluence is that I want a wiki primarily to be able to find information, and secondarily to store information, and I can never find anything in Confluence. The search function seems to be optimized for maximum frustration.

That's really surprising. Any idea if it was Confluence self-hosted vs cloud?

We have a pretty substantial Confluence Cloud and don't see the "search doesn't work" problem. Tangent: we have people who browse, and people who search, and ne'er the twain shall meet, but that's a different problem in page structure, conventions, tags, whatever.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by preommr »

maccard wrote: post #23

As much as I hate it, I think Confluence is the right choice for startups. (Or Github Wiki if you can stomach it). It's free to start, and you get 10 users. By the time you have 10 people who need access, (and you can export PDF's of pages if you have one off sharing to do) you pay $50/mo. If you have 10 employees $50/mo is pocket lint.

> As much as I hate it, I think Confluence is the right choice for startups

Confluence is so bad it reminds of that meme: "I expected nothing and I am still dissapointed".

It's so bad I would be happy to use github wiki over it, even if my employer wasn't using github for version control.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by snozolli »

movedx wrote: post #34
snozolli wrote: post #22

you’ll need to increase the resources to atleast "Atleast" isn't a word. I looked at wiki.js and I don't understand why you wouldn't just install Mediawiki. It only takes a few minutes and wiki.js doesn't look any more sophisticated at a glance.

I agree. MediaWiki is a solid solution and is very easy to setup. You can one-click deploy on DigitalOcean for $10/month and just enable daily snapshots. You can even use a managed DB if you want.

You can one-click deploy on DigitalOcean for $10/month

Am I the only person left who simply has a web server? Untar Mediawiki, edit a few config variables, run an established database script, and off you go. Maybe I'm wildly out of touch, but I don't see why everything has to be a container or a monthly paid service around here.

I get it for something like an email server, where misconfiguration could lead to your server being a zombie, but I don't get it for something like a wiki.

Re: How to setup self hosted wiki for your startup

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Post by Groxx »

maccard wrote: post #23

As much as I hate it, I think Confluence is the right choice for startups. (Or Github Wiki if you can stomach it). It's free to start, and you get 10 users. By the time you have 10 people who need access, (and you can export PDF's of pages if you have one off sharing to do) you pay $50/mo. If you have 10 employees $50/mo is pocket lint.

I'm rather curious what you would put as worse options, because Confidence is by far the worst wiki I've ever touched. After well over 20 years of touching various wikis, professionally and out of curiosity... but they're not really a passion of mine so I suppose that isn't saying all that much.

The only reason I would even remotely consider it is if I already had gigantic investment in Jira, and even then I'd strongly consider doing something else and writing up a small sync tool to keep task statuses updated.

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