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Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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I wonder if there will be any long term reputational repercussions for Netflix because of this. Amongst SWEs, Netflix is known for hiring the best people and their streaming service normally seems very solid. Other streaming services have definitely caught up a bit and are much more reliable then in the early days, but my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. This sure do…

It may vary by ISP. It’s been fine for me.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

#52

This Serrano fight is just an insane display of excellence. If anyone was waiting for the main card to tune in, I recommend tuning in now.

I know nothing about boxing and this fight was just ridiculously impressive. I kept tuning out of the earlier fights. They felt like some sort of filler. I didn’t get the allure. But Taylor v Serrano was just obvious talent that even I could appreciate it.

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On a few forum sites I'm on, people are just giving up. Looking forward to the post-mortem on how they weren't ready for this (with just a tiny bit of schadenfreude because they've interviewed and rejected me twice).

Can you share which forums

Chiefsplanet.com, unstuckpolitics.com, my buddies on group text :)

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#55
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I wonder if there will be any long term reputational repercussions for Netflix because of this. Amongst SWEs, Netflix is known for hiring the best people and their streaming service normally seems very solid. Other streaming services have definitely caught up a bit and are much more reliable then in the early days, but my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. This sure do…

So the issue is that Netflix gets its performance from colocating caches of movies in ISP datacenters, and a live broadcast doesn't work with that. It's not just about the sheer numbers of viewers, it's that a live model totally undermines their entire infrastructure advantage. See: https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/

Not sure I fully buy that. The “live” stream is rarely “live”. It’s often a highly cached buffer that’s a few mins from latest. Those in isp caches can still help here.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

#56
I'm an engineering manager at a Fortune 500 company. The dumbest engineer on our team left for Netflix. He got a pay raise too.

Our engineers are fucking morons. And this guy was the dumbest of the bunch. If you think Netflix hires top tier talent, you don't know Netflix.

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#57
post #8

I wonder if there will be any long term reputational repercussions for Netflix because of this. Amongst SWEs, Netflix is known for hiring the best people and their streaming service normally seems very solid. Other streaming services have definitely caught up a bit and are much more reliable then in the early days, but my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. This sure do…

I don't spend much time streaming, but I got a glimpse of the Amazon Prime catalog yesterday, and was surprised at how many titles on the front page were movies I'd actually watch. Reminded me of Netflix a dozen years ago.

Prime Video has to be the worst of all major streaming services. The video quality is horrible, its crippled with ads (3 not skippable ads for an episode of 45 minutes, lastly), and a lot of interesting titles are behind a "partner paywall".

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On a few forum sites I'm on, people are just giving up. Looking forward to the post-mortem on how they weren't ready for this (with just a tiny bit of schadenfreude because they've interviewed and rejected me twice).

Can you share which forums

/r/netflix and /sp/

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

#59
post #8

I wonder if there will be any long term reputational repercussions for Netflix because of this. Amongst SWEs, Netflix is known for hiring the best people and their streaming service normally seems very solid. Other streaming services have definitely caught up a bit and are much more reliable then in the early days, but my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. This sure do…

I don't think Netflix is even designed to handle very extreme multi-region live-streaming at scale as evidenced in this event with hundreds of millions simultaneously watching.

YouTube, Twitch, Amazon Prime, Hulu, etc have all demonstrated to stream simultaneously to hundreds of millions live without any issues. This was Netflix's chance to do this and they have largely failed at this.

There are no excuses or juniors to blame this time. Quite the inexperience from the 'senior' engineers at Netflix not being able to handle the scale of live-streaming which they may lose contracts for this given the downtime across the world over this high impact event.

Very embarrassing for a multi-billion dollar publicly traded company.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

#60

This reminds me of that scene in Silicon Valley

I clicked on this thread to type that exact thing, holy smokes.

You're referring to Hooli's streaming of UFC fight that goes awry and Gavin Belson totally loses it, lol. Great scene and totally relevant to what's happening with Netflix rn.

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