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Visual Basic 6 IDE recreated in C#

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Re: Visual Basic 6 IDE recreated in C#

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Post by cruffle_duffle »

calimoro78 wrote: post #30
makmanalp wrote: post #12

Oh my GOD I have to comment. This is how I learned to program as a kid. I found a copy of "Write Your Own Adventure Programs" (1983 - Usborne: https://colorcomputerarchive.com/repo/Documents/Books/Write%... ) as a kid in my primary school's bookshelf. I remember the code was written in BASIC and my family didn't really own a computer back then. Fast forward a few years later I saw this "Visual Basic" thing and though…

This! I want my kids to do the same but are really unclear as to how this is done today without BASIC. I am not psyched about tools that help you merely build platformers with WYSIWYG. Any ideas?

Esp32 with micropython?

Re: Visual Basic 6 IDE recreated in C#

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Post by bluedino »

Man, that 1995-2001 era Windows UI was like, peak Windows.

It was so crisp and clean. Visual C++ and Visual Basic of the time were far from perfect, but they let you just get things done(tm)

XP was right around the corner and it's been downhill from there.

Re: Visual Basic 6 IDE recreated in C#

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Post by twism »

bluedino wrote: post #52

Man, that 1995-2001 era Windows UI was like, peak Windows. It was so crisp and clean. Visual C++ and Visual Basic of the time were far from perfect, but they let you just get things done(tm) XP was right around the corner and it's been downhill from there.

Nothing beats a clean windows 2000 install

Re: Visual Basic 6 IDE recreated in C#

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Post by pests »

qingcharles wrote: post #27
wiseowise wrote: post #2

Still don't understand how we went from this to modern GUI toolkits. It looks and works so intuitively.

Every version of Visual Studio since this has the same builder. I use this builder every day to build little apps for myself. It is practically 100% identical in the new version of Visual Studio 2022 that came out yesterday. In fact, it's better now because it's easier to line things up and change their properties etc, but the interface is the same. It has literally not changed in 25 years. Here, I booted VS2022 and…

The tools haven't changed, we have.

Re: Visual Basic 6 IDE recreated in C#

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Post by analog31 »

wiseowise wrote: post #2

Still don't understand how we went from this to modern GUI toolkits. It looks and works so intuitively.

Two things initially drew me to VB. Being able to draw the GUI was certainly a very cool and empowering thing. I could make software that "looked like software" by the standards of the day, with minimal effort.

The other was that the alternative to VB for GUI creation was wrestling with class libraries, at a point when OOP was utterly baffling to many casual programmers like myself. Just the bare minimum "hello world" kind of app on either Windows or a Mac was page after page of instructions.

I suspect that over the span of subsequent decades, demands on high quality GUIs have increased -- as mentioned by others. But also, the programming skills needed to build a small GUI using code have become more mainstream, maybe because the languages have gradually made it easier.

Today, for the quality of GUIs that I need, I'm actually happier to just code them, and let (in my case) Tkinter lay them out in an acceptable default arrangement. My victims, er, users haven't asked for anything better.

Re: Visual Basic 6 IDE recreated in C#

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Post by codeonline »

twism wrote: post #54
bluedino wrote: post #52

Man, that 1995-2001 era Windows UI was like, peak Windows. It was so crisp and clean. Visual C++ and Visual Basic of the time were far from perfect, but they let you just get things done(tm) XP was right around the corner and it's been downhill from there.

Nothing beats a clean windows 2000 install

Do you remember how snappy it was! im using an i9 with 32gb on win11 right now and there is noticable lag opening paint and notepad, typically 2 seconds.
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