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NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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Could it be an initially-unnoticed chemical leak in the Crew Dragon? That could explain how it hospitalized four astronauts at once, and also why they're uncharacteristically afraid of media coverage. They were evasive in a similar way when Starliner was first having issues—they're scared of the politics, or of the lawyers. edit to add: These spacecraft all use very toxic fuels, and this one has had issues with fuel…

Is there any evidence of that? Maybe it landed hard, maybe their launch hurt them and they couldn't get proper medical attention until they landed, maybe they were somehow unprepared for the longer stay in orbit. Maybe one of them barfed on the way down ...

Science tells us there is no value in making up possiblities, but that we must start from observation.

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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Could it be an initially-unnoticed chemical leak in the Crew Dragon? That could explain how it hospitalized four astronauts at once, and also why they're uncharacteristically afraid of media coverage. They were evasive in a similar way when Starliner was first having issues—they're scared of the politics, or of the lawyers. edit to add: These spacecraft all use very toxic fuels, and this one has had issues with fuel…

If toxic fumes were the problem, they could just put on their helmets. Their helmets should be at hand just for such a problem.

I believe the issue GP brings up is that merely inhaling a few breaths of this stuff is enough to cause damage. The crew may not have known beforehand that there was a leak or an issue.

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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NASA: Space flight is still something we don’t fully understand, we’re finding things that we don’t expect sometimes. This was one of those times, and we’re still piecing things together on this and so to maintain medical privacy and to let our processes go forward in an orderly manner, this is all we’re going to say about that event at this time Gizmodo: fuck their privacy!!

Respectfully, I think it's reasonable that the privilege of being an astronaut — there are a thousand times more applicants than astronauts — comes with the tradeoff losing some of the privacy afforded to private citizens. It costs NASA (and to be blunt about it, taxpayers) an extraordinary amount of money to put each astronaut in space. The fact is, there have been fewer than a thousand people in space in all of his…

> now that we have SpaceX

You don't have SpaceX. It's a private company. Soon you might not have NASA either.

As part of his payment for supporting Trump, more and more of NASA and the Department of Defense will be handed to Musk for his profit.

Oligarchs always expect to be paid.

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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Respectfully, I think it's reasonable that the privilege of being an astronaut — there are a thousand times more applicants than astronauts — comes with the tradeoff losing some of the privacy afforded to private citizens. It costs NASA (and to be blunt about it, taxpayers) an extraordinary amount of money to put each astronaut in space. The fact is, there have been fewer than a thousand people in space in all of his…

> now that we have SpaceX You don't have SpaceX. It's a private company. Soon you might not have NASA either. As part of his payment for supporting Trump, more and more of NASA and the Department of Defense will be handed to Musk for his profit. Oligarchs always expect to be paid.

Someone posted a scrollable web page depiction of Musk's worth a while back. The entire NASA budget is insanely small by comparison. To imagine it, I would guess he cares more about what's in his omelet than getting more money from that budget.

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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My wild guess is seasickness. It's not supposed to happen to astronauts due to training and such, thus perhaps the unwillingness to say who. But tight quarters, seas were rough. You get the other astronauts checked out also just in case. I really don't have evidence for this though beyond wild speculation.

I've never heard of anyone being hospitalized for motion sickness. Symptoms stop quickly once the patient is back stationary on solid ground.

That’s cause you never had space motion sickness.

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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post #54

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If toxic fumes were the problem, they could just put on their helmets. Their helmets should be at hand just for such a problem.

I believe the issue GP brings up is that merely inhaling a few breaths of this stuff is enough to cause damage. The crew may not have known beforehand that there was a leak or an issue.

> a few breaths

I've sometimes gotten a whiff of a toxic fume, and my instant reaction is to hold my breath and leave the area. Not inhale a few breaths.

I'm sure the astronauts are fit enough they could hold their breath long enough to get the helmet on. After all, I expect they probably have a lot of training in getting the helmet on fast. There are many emergencies that would require this, such as rapid decompression, fire, smoke, etc.

I don't know if the astronauts do this or not, but if I was reentering, I'd put the helmet on anyway. It's only for a few minutes.

Re: NASA remains silent on why crew went to hospital after dragon splashdown

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe the issue GP brings up is that merely inhaling a few breaths of this stuff is enough to cause damage. The crew may not have known beforehand that there was a leak or an issue.

> a few breaths I've sometimes gotten a whiff of a toxic fume, and my instant reaction is to hold my breath and leave the area. Not inhale a few breaths. I'm sure the astronauts are fit enough they could hold their breath long enough to get the helmet on. After all, I expect they probably have a lot of training in getting the helmet on fast. There are many emergencies that would require this, such as rapid decompress…

If it's excess methane, you won't sense it. This is why municipal gas has a smell agent added. The same cannot be done for space fuel. If it's hydrazine, it is about as smelly as gasoline but ammonia, I think, but the toxic dose is below the smell threshold.

So no, you do not get to generalize here.

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