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I assume it means they only translate what's in the HTML, not anything that's added via Javascript later.
Is that a relevant username, or is J your initial? I can't quite place what "JavaScript heard" would mean. I've wondered before but there's no contact in your profile and now it felt at least somewhat related to the comment itself, sorry for being mostly off-topic
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> I can't use it because I'm not classified as "human" by a computer. It uses Cloudflare Turnstile captcha. The service shows no captcha to logged in Kagi users, so you can just create a (trial) Kagi account.
Thanks, but I am logged in and it still shows that. Clicking log in at the top of the page leads me to the login page which takes about 10 seconds to (while I'm typing) realise that I'm already logged in and then redirects me to the homepage (kagi search) I don't have any site-specific settings and clearly HN works fine (as well as other sites) so it's not that cookies are disabled or such Edit: come to think of it,…
This is just a simple anti-bot measure so we do not get hammered by them to death (kagi does not have an infinite treasure chest). It is not needed for search, because you can not use search for free anyway.
How is this compared to using gpt-4 directly?
I don't know how the translation quality compares, but the advantages to this would be that it's free and it can translate web pages in-place.
Has anyone seen info on how this works? "It’s not revolutionary" seems like an understatement when you can do better then DeepL and support more languages then google?
I'm pretty sure it's just a finetuned LLM. I have some experience experimenting in this space; it's not actually that hard to build a model which surpasses DeepL, and the wide language support is just a consequence of using an LLM trained on the whole Internet, so the model picks up the ability to use a bunch of languages.
Probably all they are doing is like switching between some Qwen model (for Chinese) and large Llama or maybe OpenAI or Gemini.
So they just have a step (maybe also an LLM) to guess which model is best or needed for the input. Maybe something really short and simple just goes to a smaller simpler less expensive model.
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Thanks, but I am logged in and it still shows that. Clicking log in at the top of the page leads me to the login page which takes about 10 seconds to (while I'm typing) realise that I'm already logged in and then redirects me to the homepage (kagi search) I don't have any site-specific settings and clearly HN works fine (as well as other sites) so it's not that cookies are disabled or such Edit: come to think of it,…
> come to think of it, I'm surprised that you find translator data to be more sensitive (worth sticking behind a gatekeeper) than user logins. Must have been a lot of work to develop this intellectual property. There is no Cloudflare check on the login page. This is just a simple anti-bot measure so we do not get hammered by them to death (kagi does not have an infinite treasure chest). It is not needed for search, b…
How is this compared to using gpt-4 directly?
It varies depending on the language but I find GPT4o to be good into knowing the context and go sometimes with the intent not just the grammar and rules of the language. But for most cases it is an overkill and you still have the chance of hallucination (although it has less occurrence chances in these use cases) This is of course based on my experience using it between Arabic, English and French which is among the 5…
They might actually be the same thing in some cases.
> Quality ratings based on internal testing and user feedback I'd be interested in knowing more about the methodology here. People who use Kagi tend to love Kagi, so bias would certainly get in the way if not controlled for. How rigorous was the quality-rating process? How big of a difference is there between "Average", "High" and "Very High"? I'm also curious to the 1 additional language that Kagi supports (Google i…
Kagi develops lots of features, but they seem to often be quarter-baked. Maps for example is basically unusable and has been for a while. (at least in Germany) Trying to search for an address often leads Kagi maps to go to a different random address. Still love the search, but Id love for Kagi to concentrate on one thing at a time.
Where do I find the map feature? I'm curious to see if I can identify what data source and search software it is based on, since I've heard similar complaints about Nominatim and it is indeed finicky if you made a typo or don't know the exact address; it does no context search based on the current view afaik. Google really does do search well compared to the open source software I'm partial to, I gotta give them that…
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Is that a relevant username, or is J your initial? I can't quite place what "JavaScript heard" would mean. I've wondered before but there's no contact in your profile and now it felt at least somewhat related to the comment itself, sorry for being mostly off-topic
It's an initial :p