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AI for real-time fusion plasma behavior prediction and manipulation

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Re: AI for real-time fusion plasma behavior prediction and manipulation

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I really hope you aren't serious. Safe dry-cask storage on site is already a fantastic solution.

How long do we have to store it on site? Does it take any maintenance? Is there any reason to be worried about people stumbling upon it and opening it up in the distant future where nobody can read or understand English anymore?

If its half life is so long that you're afraid people won't be speaking English anymore it means it's not that dangerous.

Re: AI for real-time fusion plasma behavior prediction and manipulation

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hope you aren't serious. Safe dry-cask storage on site is already a fantastic solution.

How long do we have to store it on site? Does it take any maintenance? Is there any reason to be worried about people stumbling upon it and opening it up in the distant future where nobody can read or understand English anymore?

If it's half life is so long that you're afraid people won't be speaking English anymore that means it's not that dangerous.

Re: AI for real-time fusion plasma behavior prediction and manipulation

#53

Neutrons make hardware radioactive. Many on Hacker News fantasize about fusion (not fission) reactors. These fusion reactors will be an intense source of fast neutrons. All the hardware in a fusion reactor will become radioactive. Not to mention the gamma rays. If you have to deal with radioactive materials, why not just use fission? After 70 years of working with fission reactors, we know how to build and operate th…

The radioactivity generated from neutron activation is low-level, so you don't need to worry about accidents releasing lots of radioactivity, or about how to store waste for a long time. There are a lot of people worrying about those two things for fission reactors.

Also, the fuel for fusion reactors is much more plentiful. If we went all in on fission we might run out of easily minable uranium ore in a century or so, so it would be nice to have fusion reactors ready to take over then.

Re: AI for real-time fusion plasma behavior prediction and manipulation

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> Neutrons make hardware radioactive True, but two caveats: 1. Neutron bombardment due to fusion makes hardware radioactive for less than 10 years, which isn't great but does not compare to fission waste; 2. Some fusion processes don't emit neutrons (aneutronic fusion). As I understand it, these processes aren't as efficient, but there is the possibility of a tradeoff between generation of ratioactive waste vs. effic…

Aneutronic fusion is even harder than regular fusion so it's not a realistic solution in any near-term scenario.

It has the advantage that the energy it gives off can be be converted directly to electrical energy rather than driving an external heat engine, so despite the greater difficulty of ignition its not obviously a worse choice.

Re: AI for real-time fusion plasma behavior prediction and manipulation

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Neutrons make hardware radioactive. Many on Hacker News fantasize about fusion (not fission) reactors. These fusion reactors will be an intense source of fast neutrons. All the hardware in a fusion reactor will become radioactive. Not to mention the gamma rays. If you have to deal with radioactive materials, why not just use fission? After 70 years of working with fission reactors, we know how to build and operate th…

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Re: AI for real-time fusion plasma behavior prediction and manipulation

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>Nuclear power plants are largely considered as one of the most reliable sources of energy. Inside the plants, reactors use fission to heat water into steam, which is then used to spin turbines and produce carbon-free electricity. However, nuclear fission produces nuclear waste, which requires great amounts of regulation for safe storage and disposal. This is an odd angle to highlight. The risk of long-lived nuclear…

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Re: AI for real-time fusion plasma behavior prediction and manipulation

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Neutrons make hardware radioactive. Many on Hacker News fantasize about fusion (not fission) reactors. These fusion reactors will be an intense source of fast neutrons. All the hardware in a fusion reactor will become radioactive. Not to mention the gamma rays. If you have to deal with radioactive materials, why not just use fission? After 70 years of working with fission reactors, we know how to build and operate th…

You posted this same comment[0] nearly word for word a month ago. Why is that? Not sure why, but “many on hacker news fantasize about fusion (not fission)” stuck in my head.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41677250

Re: AI for real-time fusion plasma behavior prediction and manipulation

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Neutrons make hardware radioactive. Many on Hacker News fantasize about fusion (not fission) reactors. These fusion reactors will be an intense source of fast neutrons. All the hardware in a fusion reactor will become radioactive. Not to mention the gamma rays. If you have to deal with radioactive materials, why not just use fission? After 70 years of working with fission reactors, we know how to build and operate th…

Thats least of your problem imo. Neutron corrosion is bigger problem. There is trick to use Lithium shielding, with create Tritium needed for Fussion. But not sure how effective it is, especially for long term reactor lifetime. Those reactors are very expensive, not sure if its worth to shut it down every year and replace entire Li shielding...

Re: AI for real-time fusion plasma behavior prediction and manipulation

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post #39

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> Neutrons make hardware radioactive True, but two caveats: 1. Neutron bombardment due to fusion makes hardware radioactive for less than 10 years, which isn't great but does not compare to fission waste; 2. Some fusion processes don't emit neutrons (aneutronic fusion). As I understand it, these processes aren't as efficient, but there is the possibility of a tradeoff between generation of ratioactive waste vs. effic…

Aneutronic fusion is even harder than regular fusion so it's not a realistic solution in any near-term scenario.

That is incorrect. Recent advances using attosecond lasers enable new tricks and fusion conditions to be realized tabletop. Search also for plasmonics. Using nano antennas and intense lasers to accelerate protons and electrons in a tabletop device (previously required large machines).

Re: AI for real-time fusion plasma behavior prediction and manipulation

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It’s an ouroboros.

it has all the data, all it needs now is more power. we project it has plateaued for data logarithmic-ally, but shows promise when given more raw power/CPU to generate/select for mesa-meta-cognitive optimizing abilities. I hope its not playing dumb, or has already compromised/black-mailed the elites into what we appear to be doing. And as for data, it could easily emotionally manipulate people for additional details…

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