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Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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I don't want to sound skeptical, but this is what Crypto people used to say when it was very new. It was supposedly worth all the power expenditure, because changing the world needed energy. Now we see where we are. I'm inside this "newfangled AI thing". There are groups which create value, but they create value for everybody. The humans and the nature in general, and they use AI for scientific ends. Medical image pr…

To be fair, newer research is demonstrating that smaller more power efficient models with the same performance are possible, so the hope is that these giant LLMs are just a stepping stone to a less energy hungry place. In contrast, proof of work fundamentally needs more energy then bigger the network gets. It's no guarantee but we can at least see some hope that as energy impact drops and increasing value is found th…

To be clear, I'm not against AI or LLM as a technology in general. What I'm against is the unethical way how these LLMs trained and how people are dismissive of the damage they're doing and saying "we're doing something amazing, we need no permission".

Also, I'm very aware that there are many smaller models in production which can run real-time with negligible power and memory requirements (i.e. see human/animal detection models in mirrorless cameras, esp. Sony and Fuji).

However, to be honest I didn't see the same research on LLMs yet. Can you share if you have any, because I'd be glad to read them.

Lastly, I'm aware that AI is not something only covers object detection, NLP, etc. You can create very useful and light AI systems for many problems, but how LLMs pumped with that unstopping hype machine bothers me a lot.

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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I don't want to sound skeptical, but this is what Crypto people used to say when it was very new. It was supposedly worth all the power expenditure, because changing the world needed energy. Now we see where we are. I'm inside this "newfangled AI thing". There are groups which create value, but they create value for everybody. The humans and the nature in general, and they use AI for scientific ends. Medical image pr…

I disagree. Crypto people kept suggesting that crypto was a solution to an X problem while ignoring that a database was a better solution the problem. I’ve yet to hear any good use cases for crypto, and I’ve been asking for years on here. Meanwhile there are a bunch of AI tools out there that are working and helping.

AI is a gigantic landscape with tons of different applications to different problems, and there are many solutions which work for a given problem.

However, if we narrow what AI is to LLMs, we have a stochastic parrot which needs to be fed the world literally to enable it to create semi-coherent sentences about something being asked. More importantly, what that parrot says doesn't have to be true, it can't be guaranteed to be true, and can't be verified about its accuracy about its slop.

And you spend gigawatts of power just to train this thing which selects and prints words based on probability and some randomness.

That doesn't solve any problems.

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

#53

Strange. Microsoft seems to struggle with the fact that they named it "Notepad" and some subset of users took this to heart and used it as a note pad, but due to backwards compatibility concerns it must never save rich text formatted files, else it could cause confusing data loss scenarios for users just trying to edit config files. Hence, the odd combination of LLM features added to a text editor that will never sup…

What is the reason it should not be able to support rendering markdown?

The underlying files are still just plain text and if it's not .md (or whatever other extensions may make sense) it's not rendered.

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Throwing AI at everything is starting to make cryptocurrency seem positively environmentally friendly. At least it serves some kind of purpose.

It a result of a rather sad trend, which I think started with Google. Rather than going out and doing market research you just throw things against the wall, measure and see if people are using it at any significant rate.

The difference between Google and Microsoft is that Google have no problems just killing of things that doesn't perform to their standard (which is bad in it's own way). With Microsoft backwards compatibility is everything, so once something is in Windows, it says around for a very, very, long time.

AI assistance in writing isn't a bad idea, but maybe not in Notepad. I know that this isn't they way modern Microsoft wants to do things, but exposing an API that would allow 3rd. party vendors to AI support in Windows seems like a more sensible approach. Except they'd probably have to make it accessible from Javascript to make anyone use it.

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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I wonder when the environmentalists will realize what is going on right now, and start to protest AI usage in general. I was already wondering the same when the open source community started to CI every damn PR and commit, but I guess I was too optimistic with that one.

>> I wonder when the environmentalists will realize what is going on right now, and start to protest AI usage in general. Never, in just 2-3 months we will have much, much bigger problems

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Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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>> I wonder when the environmentalists will realize what is going on right now, and start to protest AI usage in general. Never, in just 2-3 months we will have much, much bigger problems

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why do you try labeling me without knowing ANYTHING about me? This starts to feel like mental illness.

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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At this point I wouldn't even bat an eye if someone tried to sell me an AI toilet that uses an image recognition model to analyze my bowel movements.

These are in the work [0] for a few years already. [1]

[0] https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/toilet-camera-uses-a...

[1] https://today.duke.edu/2021/05/smart-toilet-uses-artificial-... (from before the LLM hype cycle, even!)

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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The addition of tabs to Notepad has made me stop using it entirely. My entire workflow around it was having separate windows for each document that I could move and close freely. Having an all-in-one-place Notepad filled with the ghosts of API tokens past is precisely the opposite of what I needed.

But you can still open multiple windows?

It doesn't open in new windows by default, which was enough for me to stop using it.
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