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Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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It does have a tendacy to meander or spend too time reflecting on a topic instead of distilling the details. However the new ability to add a prompt improves this greatly. Some instructions that worked for me: - Specifics instead of high level - Approach from non-critical perspective - Dont be philosophical - Use direct quotes often - Focus on the details. Provide a lesson, not reflections - Provide a 'sparknotes' st…

Oh, when was this added? I'll have to check it out.

Added about a week ago

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

#52

I tried to build something kind of like NotebookLM (personalized news podcasts) over the past months ( https://www.tailoredpod.ai ), but biggest issue is that the existing good TTS Apis are so expensive that a product such as NotebookLM is not really possible for a normal company that doesn't have internal access to Google's models. OpenAI has the cheapest / quality good enough TTS Api, but even then generating hours…

When you say beefy? How much beef?

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

#53

This is in fact pretty explicitly not open source: https://github.com/meta-llama/llama-recipes/blob/d83d0ae7f5c... (And given there is no LICENSE file, I’m afraid you can only use this code as reference at best right now)

It doesn’t look that useful to use as it. But the approach there are investigating is clearly and well documented in plain text. Seems like a valid contribution to public knowledge to be grateful for, even if it can’t be use verbatim.

I would just hope that they disingeniously stop promoting these kind of things as open source

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

#54
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Great to see this: Fellow tech-geeks, ignore the NotebookLM thing at your peril. NotebookLM, far and away, has been the "AI Killer App" for the VAST MAJORITY of bright-but-not-particularly-techy people I know. My 70ish parents and my 8 year old kid are both just blown away by this thing and can't stop playing with it. Edit: As someone pointed out below, I absolutely mean just the "podcast" thing.

you might just know very old non-tech people. but the non-tech people that will generally be the larger tech people of the future are gen z and they're definitely not on notebookLM. they are on AI character chatbots

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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Idk if I’d call it a killer app. The podcasts are grating to listen to and usually only contain very surface information I could gain from a paper’s abstract. It’s a wildly impressive technical achievement though.

The point being made is that while this may be grating for you. It is magic for a large part of the population. This combined with chatgpt advanced voice mode shows a direction of travel for AI agents. It makes it possible to imagine a world where everyone has personalized tutors and that world isn't very far away.

Ariana already has personalized tutors. Wikipedia, for example is just arriving in different forms. you could argue chatbots are superior in many forms versus a podcast where you can't just scan information

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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Pretty weird choice of TTS engines. None of them are anywhere near state of the art as far as open TTS system goes. XTTSv2 or the new F5-TTS would have been much better choices.

From improvements needed on the page: "Speech Model experimentation: The TTS model is the limitation of how natural this will sound. This probably be improved with a better pipeline and with the help of someone more knowledgable-PRs are welcome! :)"

The "PRs are welcome" posture for a for-profit entity, that actively harms minds and pretending to be open source gives me the heebie-jeebies

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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> What NotebookLM does at an LLM level is not particularly novel, it's the packaging as a product... Disagreed. NLM is novel in how the two hosts interrupt and overlap each other. No other OSS solution does that, they just take turns talking.

But that's a bad habit and we tell people not to do it. So it's a novel but undesirable feature IMHO.

not necessarily when you're really jiving with someone, the conversation flows really well. notice this is also what makes for really good vs bad television, example pulp fiction

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

#58

If we can have this running locally on mobile phone that would be pretty cool. Imagine receiving a work document (for example, product requirement documents), and then this turning it into a podcast to play for me while I am driving. I think my productivity will be through the roof and I don't need to worry about compliance issues.

I wish chatgpt or Claude would make an an Android Auto app that I can use while driving.

you could just Bluetooth your speakers

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

#59

This is in fact pretty explicitly not open source: https://github.com/meta-llama/llama-recipes/blob/d83d0ae7f5c... (And given there is no LICENSE file, I’m afraid you can only use this code as reference at best right now)

It doesn’t look that useful to use as it. But the approach there are investigating is clearly and well documented in plain text. Seems like a valid contribution to public knowledge to be grateful for, even if it can’t be use verbatim.

Also the text is enjoyably playful “For our GPU poor friends” and “let's proceed to justify our distaste for writing regex”

Re: NotebookLlama: An open source version of NotebookLM

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t look that useful to use as it. But the approach there are investigating is clearly and well documented in plain text. Seems like a valid contribution to public knowledge to be grateful for, even if it can’t be use verbatim.

I would just hope that they disingeniously stop promoting these kind of things as open source

This content could easily be a blog post and worth a read. But it’s in notebook form to make it interactive.

It’s a tired comment narrative about these being about open source.

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