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> At this price point, it’s easy enough to throw one in your basket when you’re already spending a decent chunk of change and be done with it, safe in the knowledge that you have a well-performing boot device. I do still think it’s a bit naff that the M.2 HAT+ doesn’t fit in the official case but I won’t re-open that can of worms. An rpi5 plus M.2 hat plus a branded ssd and you are well into the realm of Intel N100 S…
Pineboard have a hat that fits in the official case. Only £9.
https://thepihut.com/products/hatdrive-nano-for-raspberry-pi...
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How often is that the case? Are you really saving so much more money with a 10W board vs a 15W system to offset the purchasing price?
It's like 1.5x longer run time on battery power :shrug:
The things that need an rpi and therefore must use power from the wall anyway, I always find myself thinking would be better done by a minipc, eg one using a laptop cpu like a 7730U.
Costs more, but you get like 3-4x the speed at a similar power use, and have much more flexibility on what OS you can use because it's a "proper" PC.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of rPi. I have a Pi Zero that I've used exactly once because I wanted to do something and I came across a project that did exactly what I needed that used rPi.
I just find there's always a better option than rPi for every project I find myself doing.
Using my Raspberry Pi 4, I find that interestingly enough, even just using the SD card slot on 1 GB of RAM, device usability is perfectly good. As soon as I need to use a web browser, performance goes out the window, and you're nearly stranded in terms of usability. I think that easily qualifies as "desktop usage," and it leaves this desire for a low resource consumption web browser.
desire for a low resource consumption web browser.
When you pull up the browser's debugger and look at what a "modern" mainstream web page/app needs to deal with... you can see there's little hope for a low power device. Megabytes upon megabytes of obfuscated javascript, from multiple sources, nearly all of it needing decompression and decryption.
Using my Raspberry Pi 4
(I realize VSCode is kind of a pig. I'm just kind of experimenting to see what might be viable)
I run Firefox with uBlock, which seems to help somewhat. Total RAM usage with FF and VSCode according to htop is close to 4GB so I suspect that your 1GB Pi is running into swap once you start tooling around the interwebs with a web browser.
Upgrading from an A1 SD card to a A2 SD seems to make something of a palpable difference in "desktop usability." Certainly the benchmark scores for the A2 card blow the A1 away.
I've only had the Pi for a few weeks so I haven't experimented with more aggressive web optimization stuff, like switching my user-agent to request mobile versions or running a Pi-hole, etc. I'm also running at 4K native, so.... changing that certainly might help too....
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The fan won't do much if there a second PCB stacked right on top of it though, unless there's cutouts for it.
It does quite enough. Some test results are here: https://bret.dk/official-raspberry-pi-m-2-hat-review/#Temper... And for any moderate use cases the need for any cooler at all could be disputed. I bet most RPi use cases don't include heavy computing.
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It does quite enough. Some test results are here: https://bret.dk/official-raspberry-pi-m-2-hat-review/#Temper... And for any moderate use cases the need for any cooler at all could be disputed. I bet most RPi use cases don't include heavy computing.
In what way is thermally throttling at 86.5 C quite enough cooling? "Active Cooler in Case with HAT" idles near the same temperature "Active Cooler" reaches under max, unthrottled, load.
It would be cool to have a nex gen RPi (perhaps even the Zero edition) that does away with the micro SD slot and replaces it with a built in NMVe one. In addition, replace most of the other ports (microUSB, etc...) with a number of USB-C ports.
Well, not an NVMe maybe (yet), but at least a built-in eMMC slot.
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In what way is thermally throttling at 86.5 C quite enough cooling? "Active Cooler in Case with HAT" idles near the same temperature "Active Cooler" reaches under max, unthrottled, load.
I think you misread the graph. "Active Cooler in Case with HAT" is pretty much the same temperature (74.8) as "Active Cooler" (no case, no hat, 70.6). None of the configurations with the cooler throttled.
> At this price point, it’s easy enough to throw one in your basket when you’re already spending a decent chunk of change and be done with it, safe in the knowledge that you have a well-performing boot device. I do still think it’s a bit naff that the M.2 HAT+ doesn’t fit in the official case but I won’t re-open that can of worms. An rpi5 plus M.2 hat plus a branded ssd and you are well into the realm of Intel N100 S…
> it’s a bit naff that the M.2 HAT+ doesn’t fit in the official case Pineboard have a hat that fits in the official case. Only £9. https://thepihut.com/products/hatdrive-nano-for-raspberry-pi ...
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