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Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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On one hand, stray dogs are a joy for many Indians. For many months the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work and throwing bones to the assembled dogs. On the other hand, they enter homes and kill babies, attack children and adults and carry rabies epidemics. Right thing to do is to prevent more strays from happening.

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There are shelter in metros. For eg. Yoda in Mumbai

https://yoda.co.in/

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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People will talk about his different contribution to economy and philanthropy. However, my favorite is the story where he instructed his hotel employees to treat stray dogs well if they enter the premises. For a man of his wealth and power, to care about a stray dog truly speaks to his humble nature. RIP Sir, you were a crown jewel of the post independence India. https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/ratan-ta…

On one hand, stray dogs are a joy for many Indians. For many months the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work and throwing bones to the assembled dogs. On the other hand, they enter homes and kill babies, attack children and adults and carry rabies epidemics. Right thing to do is to prevent more strays from happening.

I'm laughing that this is the subthread that generates the most conversation so far on a thread about Ratan Tata's death.

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Throwaway account here, but I think we should be cautious about hero worship. While it's true that Tata has contributed positively in many areas, there are also significant controversies surrounding his legacy—like leasing coal mines for just 25 paise for 999 years before independence(1), among other issues(2) It's important to consider both the positives and negatives to form a well-rounded opinion. Let's aim to be…

I too am a big fan of not supporting hero worship. But what we should recognize is the deeds that they perform and the values that they uphold rather than supporting them in everything they do.

Having met the guy multiple times growing up he always stood out to me as a very humble man that loved the people and the institution he built. His love for dogs was something that helped me be closer to animals.

With regards to the comments about post-independence industrialization, most countries go through that phase where industrialists of the time stand to gain very lucrative opportunities to build value.

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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On one hand, stray dogs are a joy for many Indians. For many months the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work and throwing bones to the assembled dogs. On the other hand, they enter homes and kill babies, attack children and adults and carry rabies epidemics. Right thing to do is to prevent more strays from happening.

A little ignorant here, could you explain a little more on this part. > the highlight of the day was going to a cafe at 10 pm in middle of work Is it 'normal' to have to work late to 10pm, or does it mean second job, etc.? Or was that just a typo and you meant 10am? My gut instinct is 10am, but wanted to ask directly out of curiosity if I was wrong and get a better cultural understanding.

Crunch and 12 hour days are pervasive at tech companies. Also people got meetings with clients or overlap with client timezones (like 2 pm to 11 pm). Hence the office complexes and eateries are still busy at 10 pm. Sorry the "day" was confusing.

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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As someone who stays far from politics, ratan tata and tata group in particular are the extraordinary entities who do opposite of enshitification. They dont cut corners (like everyone) and are highly regarded as being genuinely good. Case in point. From a tax perspective, historically reliance indistries was always known for being sneaky around taxes, dodging taxes, finding loopholes and such. Tata OTOH, they are his…

Who does the torch pass to now that he’s gone?

He was in a chairman emeritus position for many years now.

Since Tata, Cyrus Mistry and Natarajan Chandrasekaran have headed the conglomerate.

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Night shift/2nd shift is a thing.

> Night shift/2nd shift is a thing. Yes, of course and definitely I considered as I mention if he/she meant 2nd job, etc. Just the phrasing threw me off as it says 'day', then '10pm' and it's written as if it is a normal occurrence for the majority of the population (which would imply night shift/2nd shift is normal working times for the majority). Just wanted to get clarification from OP on exactly what was meant to…

Maybe they're working in a call center

> Call centre work is typically done overnight to accommodate time zones in the US, UK, and Australia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_centre_industry_in_India

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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JRD Tata and Ratan Tata are among the most honorable men with pure hearts, never affected by avarice or hatred. Tales of their generosity and kind hearted nature will continue to inspire me.

They are shining examples of how capitalists can help uplift society.

RIP

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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Throwaway account here, but I think we should be cautious about hero worship. While it's true that Tata has contributed positively in many areas, there are also significant controversies surrounding his legacy—like leasing coal mines for just 25 paise for 999 years before independence(1), among other issues(2) It's important to consider both the positives and negatives to form a well-rounded opinion. Let's aim to be…

I have no doubt that we humans would find fault with Buddha as well, so I am a little intrigued by this criticism (as someone mentioned he would be 9 years old when coal mining incident happened) but not totally surprised

But yeah, lets find fault with everyone to form a "well-rounded opinion", because that is what we should strive to achieve

Re: Indian entrepreneur, industrialist, and philanthropist, Ratan Tata, dead at 86

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As an Indian , this news is absolutely heartbreaking. Ratan Tata was a gem to India May his soul rest in peace. This news has really taken me a back

I am with you.

I am personally feeling bad that he died. Can't remember any time in recent history when a person with whom I have no personal connecting died, and it is impacting me so much

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