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Being generous, thoughtful, and kind is a sign of high intelligence

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Re: Being generous, thoughtful, and kind is a sign of high intelligence

#54

Can wet please stop this nonsense of calling psychology a science, and starting these kind of articles with “science says”? This is really eroding public trust on real science.

What would you like to call psychology instead?

Re: Being generous, thoughtful, and kind is a sign of high intelligence

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My mother is both mean and dumb. After a lot of conversation with her I've noticed one of the reasons why she's so mean is she doesn't seem to have the cognitive ability to think about the consequences of what she says or does before she says it or does it. She operates entirely on instinct and thinking through words/actions beforehand is a totally foreign concept to her.

The most common cognitive bias people have is assuming everyone else thinks/operates like them. It's reinforced with the widespread cultural belief that everyone is basically the same.

On average, it's actually a good heuristic, because people are mostly clones. You correct for that bias by understanding yourself and others better, but it takes time and effort.

Re: Being generous, thoughtful, and kind is a sign of high intelligence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In order to empathize it requires a mental model of how someone else thinks/feels.

Same is true with being manipulative though.

Yes, but being manipulative will be discovered and punished in the long term. It's not a stable strategy, as it get riskier and riskier the more you do it. So you are naturally disincentivized from being manipulative.

On the other hand, being generous will be recognized and rewarded in the long term. In the short term you carry some risk if you are generous with people you don't know. This is where having good social skills to develop relationships comes in.

It's also the difference between playing zero-sum and positive-sum games. Manipulation is zero-sum. Positive-sum games have more reward all-in-all in the long term.

Re: Being generous, thoughtful, and kind is a sign of high intelligence

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What about highly intelligent psychopaths? https://www.spring.org.uk/2022/12/high-functioning-psychopat... Maybe some of those highly intelligent people are good at pretending to be generous, thoughtful, and kind because it helps achieve their goals.

“Being X is a sign of Y” doesn’t imply “Being Y is a sign of X.”

Eh? (P(X|Y)>P(X) iff P(Y|X)>P(Y)) whenever all the relevant probabilities (P(X), P(Y), P(X and Y), etc.) are strictly positive and strictly less than 1.

Now, X might be much stronger evidence for Y than Y is for X, but if Y is evidence for X, then (assuming the previously mentioned assumption) then X is evidence for Y, even if only very weak.

Re: Being generous, thoughtful, and kind is a sign of high intelligence

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post #54

Can wet please stop this nonsense of calling psychology a science, and starting these kind of articles with “science says”? This is really eroding public trust on real science.

What would you like to call psychology instead?

Psychology is literally the study of the soul and life, but has been more recently understood to be of the mind and behavior. The closest science may be behavioral as "mind science" seems undiscussed, but topics named science refer to themselves as a science not that they are practicing as such, but so as to avoid through an appeal to the language authority the possible argument that they lack it. If a Greek derivative was desired for the study of the mind, then it might be dianoialogy.
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