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HBO documentary suggests Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto is Peter Todd

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Re: HBO documentary suggests Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto is Peter Todd

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Post by TibbityFlanders »

staplers wrote: post #25
adastra22 wrote: post #12

Absolutely insane. (1) It's not Peter Todd. Anyone who knows Peter Todd and/or was around in the early days, can clearly tell Satoshi and Peter are not the same person. (2) No good comes from speculation over the identity of Satoshi. When someone living is named, their life becomes absolute hell and the security risk imposed on them is very real. When someone dead is proposed, that hellish experience is passed to the…

It's incredibly dangerous of these "journalists". Putting targets on people's back as well as possibly being slander. Any bitcoin oldheads know it's not Peter Todd based on tons of behavioral, timestamped, and logistical evidence. The actual leading candidate is Len Sassaman if you look objectively at the evidence.

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Re: HBO documentary suggests Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto is Peter Todd

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Post by shepherdjerred »

astrange wrote: post #17
ryandvm wrote: post #15

The obvious answer is Satoshi Nakamoto is functionally dead. His wallet would be worth around $70 billion dollars today and he hasn't touched it in over a decade. Either he is A) dead, B) lost the wallet and wishes he were dead, or C) has achieved such spiritual enlightenment that has no interest in the personal or societal impact that $70 billion dollars could have. He is not coming back folks, and even if we figure…

> lost the wallet and wishes he were dead At least it's a good tax write-off. (Well… $3000 a year for life in the US iirc.)

What’s stopping me from claiming I had this (or any other) wallet and getting the write off?

Re: HBO documentary suggests Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto is Peter Todd

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Post by voltaireodactyl »

mvdtnz wrote: post #50
adastra22 wrote: post #12

Absolutely insane. (1) It's not Peter Todd. Anyone who knows Peter Todd and/or was around in the early days, can clearly tell Satoshi and Peter are not the same person. (2) No good comes from speculation over the identity of Satoshi. When someone living is named, their life becomes absolute hell and the security risk imposed on them is very real. When someone dead is proposed, that hellish experience is passed to the…

> No good comes from speculation over the identity of Satoshi. When someone living is named, their life becomes absolute hell and the security risk imposed on them is very real. When someone dead is proposed, that hellish experience is passed to their family and heirs. Not a good reason. The person who developed bitcoin is responsible for billions (maybe trillions) of dollars of fraud and crime. They are responsible…

By this measure, one would be compelled to start with the banks. Which is not to say I’m opposed in theory, just that I hope such sentiments are applied equally.

Re: HBO documentary suggests Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto is Peter Todd

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Post by neilv »

If an HBO show suggested that I was the Bitcoin creator, I would be wealthy... from owning HBO, after my team of lawyers (who accepted the suit on contingency) was done with them.

Then there's Google editorializing a headline at the top of search hits:

> Top stories

> Bitcoin creator's identity revealed in new HBO documentary

Yet none of the headlines they show makes that claim:

> POLITICO.eu - Bitcoin creator is Peter Todd, HBO film says

> Bloomberg - HBO Documentary Suggests Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Is Peter Todd

> The New York Times - A New Bitcoin Documentary Reopens the Search for Satoshi Nakamoto

> The Crypto Times - Peter Todd Denies He is Satoshi Nakamoto as claimed by HBO...

> The New Yorker - Has Bitcoin's Elusive Creator Finally Been Unmasked?

In general (not just in this case), there should also soon be some huge lawsuits for robo-slander, robo-libel, robo-defamation, robo-reckless-endangerment, etc.

Government is getting a lot more tech-savvy, and "everything's legal, if you claim an AI/algorithm/computer/dog did it" isn't flying anymore.

Re: HBO documentary suggests Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto is Peter Todd

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Post by andrewflnr »

adastra22 wrote: post #28
andrewflnr wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Alleged Satoshis" are generally public, almost by definition. We would notice if they disappeared. We would also notice if the well-known Satoshi-associated wallets had any activity, which would be an unavoidable signal if any such kidnapping succeeded in finding the real one. Not everything is a deep mystery.

A lot of old timers in this space have been subject to kidnapping and ransom attacks, some real and some merely threatened, as well as more mundane phone porting and SWAT'ing. These don't make the news. Then there are the other crypto people who have met grisly ends: Bob Lee and Li Chiming, as well as the suspicious deaths of John Forsyth, Tiantian Kullander, Vyacheslav Taran, and Park Mo. Not candidates for Satoshi,…

They made enough news that you know about them, at least. Anyway, I don't disagree with the last part.

Re: HBO documentary suggests Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto is Peter Todd

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Post by astrange »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #53
astrange wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> lost the wallet and wishes he were dead At least it's a good tax write-off. (Well… $3000 a year for life in the US iirc.)

What’s stopping me from claiming I had this (or any other) wallet and getting the write off?

Audits, same as anything else.

Re: HBO documentary suggests Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto is Peter Todd

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Post by r721 »

yboris wrote: post #20

Headline: ‘I am not Satoshi Nakamoto’: Subject of HBO documentary denies he invented bitcoin https://lite.cnn.com/2024/10/08/investing/satoshi-nakamoto-i...

Quite interesting interview in this piece:

>CNN sat down with Hoback, prior to Todd’s denial, to discuss why the director is so confident in his theory, whether he’s worried about being sued, and that big dramatic confrontation at the end of the film.

Re: HBO documentary suggests Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto is Peter Todd

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Post by r721 »

adastra22 wrote: post #18
Mistletoe wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>HBO’s theory relies on a message from Peter Todd claiming to be the ‘world’s leading expert on how to sacrifice your bitcoins’ I just can't imagine the real Satoshi saying something this stupid.

Also they didn't bother to ask Peter the story behind this? There is a story regarding an entirely different pot of coins.

From CNN story:

>In a statement to CNN, Todd denied that the post was supposed to be written by Satoshi, calling it “a coincidence.”

>“I was simply pointing out a minor correction to what Satoshi wrote,” Todd told CNN in a statement. “Note that the bitcointalk forum has the ability to edit posts, so it doesn’t even make that much sense that Satoshi would follow up with another message rather than just editing the original to correct the mistake.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/08/investing/satoshi-nakamot...

Re: HBO documentary suggests Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto is Peter Todd

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Post by runjake »

sigmar wrote: post #3

Peter Todd is downplaying the accusation on Twitter by retweeting and discussing this tweet: https://x.com/BitMEXResearch/status/1843788557925921052 To my reading, the bitcointalk reply only makes sense as a snarky comment (ie Todd isn't Satoshi). and the fact it was 1.5 hours after the Satoshi post also suggests it wasn't the same person making a quick correction.

If it was Satoshi making a correction, he could’ve just edited his original post because bitcointalk allowed for post edits even back then.
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