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What is "founder mode"?

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Re: What is "founder mode"?

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something jeff bezos always warned against was the "narrative fallacy" - for one to believe so strongly in a compelling story that they dont stop for data. here's the stock charts of the founder of founder mode vs a professional manager mode guy :) https://x.com/ericnewcomer/status/1830998969490526423 just a fun reminder not to take everything as gospel. to engage more substantively with TFA: > I think the general pa…

The two charts are basically identical except for Uber's last 6 months...

Re: What is "founder mode"?

#52
An interesting read. I've been a Monzo customer ever since the sign-up process was "come to the office and we'll give you your card and help you get the Beta version of the app installed" and it's been interesting, exciting (and sad, in some ways) to see it grow and morph into what it is today.

Back then, you were more likely than not to get an engineer dealing with your customer support queries. There was a Slack community, a forum community and it felt very much like a scrappy little start-up that was truly making a difference in what - in the UK - had been an industry dominated by companies that didn't really care about user experience or modern technology (I'd had the misfortune of doing work for some of those banks). They even had an API which customers could use to get their own data!

The pace of progress was rapid, too. I remember asking Tom if he'd ever consider offering business current accounts, since the competition was pretty dire at the time - the answer back then was a "no, we're focussing on retail" - but I'm happy to use my Monzo business account daily now!

I had the opportunity to work on a proposal and sit down with some folks from one of Monzo's partnerships team a few weeks back for a potential collaboration which ultimately didn't end up going forwards. The staff were lovely, but it didn't feel like quite the same company I'd visited in-person years ago to collect my pre-paid card from. I guess that's something that inevitably happens as companies scale up.

Re: What is "founder mode"?

#53
post #11

Feels like I am taking crazy pills when I read about this stuff. Like 1500 words that boil down to "make sure you're paying attention to whether or not people are doing a good job".

It's also crazy that people are buying into the idea of 'Founder Mode' when Airbnb is one of the companies that is very much riding on the moat it created a while back while not doing anything much that can even remotely be called customer-obsessive (which is the lesson they could really learn from Steve Jobs)

I would argue that, when you get to the scale of an Airbnb, or Amazon, which is where I think the "customer-obsessive" terminology comes from, you need to move beyond focusing solely on your customers. Your business is having a social impact. The house next door to me right now has had contractors going in and out of it for the past three weeks to remove and replace the entire interior because of damage done by a short-term renter. Construction has absolutely boomed around me but nearly all of the new units are becoming short-term rentals. The neighborhood is either empty most of the time, or full of drunken idiots making a bunch of noise, getting the police called on them at 3 AM, and leaving the streets and sidewalks full of trash and broken bottles.

Airbnb may very well be making its customers happy, but when so many of those customers are 21 year-olds looking for party houses they can trash and fundamentally changing the character and safety of entire neighborhoods, is that really the most important thing? Even as the founder or executive or both of a business, you're still part of a human community and you have a duty to that community not to worsen the lives of countless bystanders in order to delight the few who happen to pay you. Make products that are valuable in general, to everybody, not products that are valuable only to your customers at everyone else's expense.

Re: What is "founder mode"?

#54
post #16
post #7

something jeff bezos always warned against was the "narrative fallacy" - for one to believe so strongly in a compelling story that they dont stop for data. here's the stock charts of the founder of founder mode vs a professional manager mode guy :) https://x.com/ericnewcomer/status/1830998969490526423 just a fun reminder not to take everything as gospel. to engage more substantively with TFA: > I think the general pa…

> here's the stock charts of the founder of founder mode vs a professional manager mode guy :) I've always told myself if I start a company that ever reaches, say, 250+ employees, I'd step down. First, playing a management game doesn't interest me (it's sort of like Risk vs Monopoly; the former is fun, the latter I find boring). And second, I just like building things. I wish the meme/essay would be about "builder mo…

I understand the sentiment but you may be overlooking how you and your interests can change as the company scales. The version of you running the 200 person company probably looks different from the seed stage version and won't want to quit at 250. That said, if you don't want to have a bunch of people working for you, it seems kind of unlikely that you'll find yourself in that position.

Re: What is "founder mode"?

#55
Replacing founders with professional managers was the norm in SV until the mid 2000s and the Zuck era began. See for example Google with Schmidt.

The problem is about delegating effectively, especially in the case of delegating to executives. The issue is treating parts of the org as "black boxes" and optimising for the wrong thing as a founder. Some founders/CEOs delegate the things they don't want to do or aren't good at. Others want to reinvent the wheel in terms of what "managing" and "direct reports" means. Still others just want to set the vision and hire some "strategists" etc. (who's doing the work?)

Founder mode is basically optimising for the quality of the product down to the gritty details and keeping wannabe professional fakers that manage up on a short leash.

Re: What is "founder mode"?

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bezos also said, "When the anecdotes disagree with the data, it's usually the anecdotes that are right"

The end of that quote is "there is something wrong with the way that you are measuring your data". Which changes the meaning of the quote (without it, it's "value anecdotes over data", with it, it's "use inconsistencies with anecdotes to identify problems with data".

Here, I'll formalize it with statistical language: "the likelihood of the events we sample are inconsistent with the model we've used to explain our data."

Re: What is "founder mode"?

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't like it more than you do, but it exists because it works in practical reality. To replace it you must come up with something that works even better.

I disagree with this blocking tactic of "if you want to complain about it you must come up with something better" Like, yes, let me completely redo my entire life path so I can redo one stupid argument.... I would love to, but I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth that gives me the sapce to explore these things, and I have more practical matters to attend to. Until then, we're going to be complaining to anyon…

I don't mind you complaining at all!

I said that to replace it you must come up with something better.

I don't believe at all in the theory that if we only destroy the old system completely, a new just and effective system will arise from the ashes.

Re: What is "founder mode"?

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree with this blocking tactic of "if you want to complain about it you must come up with something better" Like, yes, let me completely redo my entire life path so I can redo one stupid argument.... I would love to, but I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth that gives me the sapce to explore these things, and I have more practical matters to attend to. Until then, we're going to be complaining to anyon…

I don't mind you complaining at all! I said that to replace it you must come up with something better. I don't believe at all in the theory that if we only destroy the old system completely, a new just and effective system will arise from the ashes.

It isn't just about replacing the system, because as you say it works for the people that stand to benefit the most from it. A better replacement can never emerge until we have reprogrammed the culture of maximization and "efficiency" that has been allowed to fester.

I don't claim to know what a replacement would look like, but I personally think it would hold 'servant leadership' as a primary tenet, and destroy the notion of shareholder primacy, and have some sort of increasing level of entropy that scales as the business does, to the point where large companies are simply unsustainable for all but the most important of endeavors.

Re: What is "founder mode"?

#59
>I believe that great leaders have to be able to dig into the details, have an incredibly high bar for quality, and ultimately do great IC work themselves. Great managers have to manage the work - they should primarily be responsible for quality and speed of output. Managing people must be secondary to managing the product.

Some nice take always:

-Never make someone a manager if they are not capable of being an being an reasonably competent _technical_ IC.

-If there is a situation where a manager who is not a capable ( for what ever reason) IC manages a team, then a capable IC member must be given authority to overrule any decisions that the manager may make. In this case the manger is just a co-ordinater/secretary.

- When a potential manager joins a company, make them do IC works. (already covered in the essay : ' customer service for one day a month..' )

Re: What is "founder mode"?

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post #8

I am glad he is calling out the C-levels for their propensity to lie and 'manage up'. This is a character trait that needs to be annihilated. We should not be filtering for what is effectively psychopathy. I have watched so many amazing and sustainable products die because someone let the MBAs in. After sitting through so much of this crap dogma in my own business school classes, I would say the vast majority of what…

I don't like it more than you do, but it exists because it works in practical reality. To replace it you must come up with something that works even better.

>To replace it you must come up with something that works even better.

Huh? I thought it was obvious: don't hire the MBA types as managers.

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