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I'd be to pay a premium for a device like this if I wasn't limited to the manufacturers own app for collecting and interpreting data. As is? Nah...
It looks like Oura at least writes to Apple Health [1], so there's some portability. [1] https://support.ouraring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025438734-...
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If you wake up a lot at night and still feel tired in the morning... have you tried doing a sleep study? I believe that obstructive sleep apnea is severely under-diagnosed.
Yes, I did a real sleep study and they said I do indeed have "mild" sleep apnea but it "isn't bad enough that we are willing to treat it." I do usually need several naps to get through a typical day- and that is after identifying and treating three other major health conditions that can cause fatigue. The newer Oura rings actually have an integrated pulse oximeter and can measure apnea, but mine does not. I wonder if…
If that was me, I would pester either the same doctor or a new one to get a CPAP machine. It's not a set and forget device, you may need to try a few masks and tweak the settings until you find something that really works for you, but once it's dialed in it makes a big big difference to your quality of life.
Trying to lose weight when you are not getting adequate sleep is an uphill battle. There are plenty of lean people that still need CPAP to get adequate sleep -- I was one of them.
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Why would you want it implantable? I mean, I get why, but at the speed the tech evolves do you want to cut yourself up just to implant something that will be obsolete in a few years?
Good point. I guess I want more stats with higher accuracy without having to wear something.
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It looks like Oura at least writes to Apple Health [1], so there's some portability. [1] https://support.ouraring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025438734-...
So instead of Oura owning your data, Oura _and_ Apple own it?
https://cloud.ouraring.com/dashboard
Log in to Oura on the Web with your Oura account details
Select the profile OOTW profile.png in the upper right corner > My Account
Under Export Data, you'll find options to download Oura metrics in either CSV or JSON format> Oura Ring 4 starts at $349, with Oura Membership pricing at $5.99 per month or $69.99 per year. Oura business team forgot they now have much more competition than they had 2 or 3 years ago. Competitor that doesn’t charge a monthly fee, and competitor like Samsung that will be « good enough » for the average joe while being cheaper and without monthly fee. I don’t see how they can remain profitable in the near futur…
Ultrahuman provides an overwhelming amount of information and a lot of useful-seeming recommendations on top of it but in my experience, the data collected by Ultrahuman are inaccurate to the point of being useless. For example I can be exercising with an ECG chest strap recording a heart rate of 170bpm and the Ultrahuman ring will consistently report 90bpm.
I haven't tried Oura personally (hard to get it in my region) but they do have a decent quantity of well-run studies to validate their measurements. Ultrahuman has close to zero validation. They do have their metabolic score feature that has some amount of proper validation but it's essentially a nicer UI for some very mature hardware from a completely different company.
If there's a real competitor without a subscription fee though, I'd love to hear about it.
Is there much research being performed into implantable health monitors?
Why would you want it implantable? I mean, I get why, but at the speed the tech evolves do you want to cut yourself up just to implant something that will be obsolete in a few years?
Not everyone's cup of tea but not as dramatic as "cutting yourself up" either.
My second Oura ring (3rd gen) is ~3 years old and is currently collecting dust in a drawer because the battery lasts I might be able to get it replaced if support decides to be generous, but dealing w/support is a pain, and the alternative is buying a $400 replacement every 2-3 years when the battery starts to fail. I don't have to pay the monthly subscription - they had a deal where you could buy a third gen ring (a…
I opened the live chat on the battery life support page and the chatbot asked (paraphrased) "Is your battery bad? Put in your email address". I put my email in and the next automated message was "Seems like your battery is underperforming, where should we send a replacement ring?"
I got my replacement a few days later.
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Yes, I did a real sleep study and they said I do indeed have "mild" sleep apnea but it "isn't bad enough that we are willing to treat it." I do usually need several naps to get through a typical day- and that is after identifying and treating three other major health conditions that can cause fatigue. The newer Oura rings actually have an integrated pulse oximeter and can measure apnea, but mine does not. I wonder if…
> I do usually need several naps to get through a typical day If that was me, I would pester either the same doctor or a new one to get a CPAP machine. It's not a set and forget device, you may need to try a few masks and tweak the settings until you find something that really works for you, but once it's dialed in it makes a big big difference to your quality of life. Trying to lose weight when you are not getting a…
I have two other major health conditions that badly needed treatment, which Kaiser would not treat, and I paid an outside doctor with cash to be able to receive treatment.
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Yes, I did a real sleep study and they said I do indeed have "mild" sleep apnea but it "isn't bad enough that we are willing to treat it." I do usually need several naps to get through a typical day- and that is after identifying and treating three other major health conditions that can cause fatigue. The newer Oura rings actually have an integrated pulse oximeter and can measure apnea, but mine does not. I wonder if…
I did. Bought it myself. Learn how to enter clinician mode by holding the right buttons for your model. It's quite shocking how controlled and artificially limited things are in CPAP-land. cpap, and more advanced machines have identical hardware, but they cost orders of magnitude different prices. For many people have different pressure when inhaling vs exhaling is important - so called BiPAP. Everyone tells you star…
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That appears to be connecting to Oura's servers, collecting the data they choose to share. You are still at the whim of the company, who can turn off that data spigot any time it becomes expedient for them. There's no way to get the data off of the device and use it yourself, without the same data going to their servers. You pay hundreds of dollars for a device that doesn't let you use it, and rely on the kindness of…
Very few people want to interface with a wearable locally and store the data locally (esp via a mobile app given the use case here). I have spent my entire career messing around with APIs and platforms and I have no interest in doing this DIY. oAuth into Oura ring's servers, which is totally available to you, is just fine. If privacy is this much of a concern, why wear a trackable wearable in the first place?
I think people WOULD like to keep their health data local, if given the option.
But companies do things in their own self-interest, including carefully crafted product descriptions, privacy policies, apis, protocols and apps.
I will mention Garmin watches don't require activation or to be "connected" to work.