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Biggest solar flare since 2017 erupts from sun and Earth is in the firing line

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Re: Biggest solar flare since 2017 erupts from sun and Earth is in the firing line

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Is a UTC day a different length to a common solar day? At this level of pre soon leap seconds and even sidereal day difference makes no difference

Yes, but they probably mean "the next 72 hours from right now given in UTC".

Which would be the same as the next 72 hours in PST

Re: Biggest solar flare since 2017 erupts from sun and Earth is in the firing line

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Yes but you have to be an astronout in the outer space without enough added protection for the increase of radiation. Or maybe some increased exposure for high altitude flights near the poles. Other than that earth's atmosphere would make it that not enough exposure will reach the surface of the earth. Well things would be different for indirect harm because of satellite and signal failures. They could even cause dis…

If we ever colonise Mars, will the colonies be more or less vulnerable to solar flares than Earth? Not that I know anything this subject, but my understanding is that Mars has a much thinner atmosphere than Earth, and no magnetosphere. Would that make solar flares more dangerous? Or would the colonists be protected by whatever habitat is protecting them from everything else on Mars? What about electronic equipment th…

It woud need to be planned heavily and these Colonies would need to dig underground for protections during strong solar flares. Another option will be to use shields around the Colonies. Otherwise the short exposure will lead to traditions sickness which could lead to many complications. The longer exposure however would lead to cancer due to severe damage to tissues.

Also protecting electronics would be much harder. Your ability to do anything except digging during these times will be limited.

Re: Biggest solar flare since 2017 erupts from sun and Earth is in the firing line

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Yes but you have to be an astronout in the outer space without enough added protection for the increase of radiation. Or maybe some increased exposure for high altitude flights near the poles. Other than that earth's atmosphere would make it that not enough exposure will reach the surface of the earth. Well things would be different for indirect harm because of satellite and signal failures. They could even cause dis…

It's my understanding that a Carrington event would destroy the bulk of the electrical grid on the side of earth facing the sun at the time. But would be pleased to hear how I'm wrong!

It depends on how much preparation the power grid in different places would have. I think the even will not be catastrophic but will cause a lot of damage and disruption. Mainly because we will lose satellite communication system and GPS systems and there will be at least localized problems with the grid system in different parts of the world.

Re: Biggest solar flare since 2017 erupts from sun and Earth is in the firing line

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For a couple years I had a process running on a PC without ECC that simply filled a large buffer with a bit pattern that was 50% ones and 50% zeros, and then periodically scanned the buffer for changes. It never found a changed bit. I used a 2008 Mac Pro at work and a 2009 Mac Pro at home for several years. They had ECC memory. I would periodically check the RAM status and I never saw anything that said an error had…

A buffer is much too small to catch any errors, unless you dedicate more than half of your installed memory to it. Typical memory rates for a computer with only 8 to 32 GB of DRAM might be of at most a few errors per year when new. For some aged memory modules, after several years of use, the error rate can increase a lot and it can become noticeable. For myself this has been the main benefit of ECC, the ability to d…

I found my code, and it looks like I was using 128 MB. This was around 2005.

A study done [1] at Google based on 2.5 years of observations of their servers, first published in 2009, found error rates from 25000-70000 errors per billion device hours per Mb. That would put the time Google was doing the study in the right era for when I did my test.

Based on that I would expect to see about 1 error per 40 hours in a 128 MB buffer if the buffer was on a Google server. I suppose that supports the theory that the data center environment is a lot more error prone than my home environment was.

[1] https://cacm.acm.org/research/dram-errors-in-the-wild/

Re: Biggest solar flare since 2017 erupts from sun and Earth is in the firing line

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Track the impacts on https://www.spaceweather.com/

Holy cow that's an insane website design. So, where exactly do I see the tracking? Is it below the grift of a 3D printed moon? Is it near the ads for casinos. Or maybe the mood rings? This isn't a bitch about ads. It's I honestly cannot easily find the actual information the site is supposedly hosting.

There's an information/status bar on the left. There's a header on top with important info/ current events. Then it's kind of in blogpost format. And if you ever want to know what info was there last year, there's an archive viewer on the top right, that actually shows the page just like it was, at any date!

Re: Biggest solar flare since 2017 erupts from sun and Earth is in the firing line

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post #27

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Yes but you have to be an astronout in the outer space without enough added protection for the increase of radiation. Or maybe some increased exposure for high altitude flights near the poles. Other than that earth's atmosphere would make it that not enough exposure will reach the surface of the earth. Well things would be different for indirect harm because of satellite and signal failures. They could even cause dis…

It's my understanding that a Carrington event would destroy the bulk of the electrical grid on the side of earth facing the sun at the time. But would be pleased to hear how I'm wrong!

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Re: Biggest solar flare since 2017 erupts from sun and Earth is in the firing line

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post #27

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Yes but you have to be an astronout in the outer space without enough added protection for the increase of radiation. Or maybe some increased exposure for high altitude flights near the poles. Other than that earth's atmosphere would make it that not enough exposure will reach the surface of the earth. Well things would be different for indirect harm because of satellite and signal failures. They could even cause dis…

It's my understanding that a Carrington event would destroy the bulk of the electrical grid on the side of earth facing the sun at the time. But would be pleased to hear how I'm wrong!

HN was hyping a Carrington event four months ago and civilization survived so that later I was able to ask about it:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40685573

Re: Biggest solar flare since 2017 erupts from sun and Earth is in the firing line

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Or maybe they mean "day" as starting from UTC midnight.

Maybe they’re contrasting with sidereal days?

That was my initial thought, but that’s a difference of 10 mins over 3 days, and that’s orders of magnitudes more precise than should be used.
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