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Nexus 7 review: The best $200 tablet you can buy

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Re: Nexus 7 review: The best $200 tablet you can buy

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I've never understood the 7" tablet argument. Yes, the size and price makes it far more appealing for kids. And women who want a Kindle++ that fits in the purse they already carry everywhere (but is too small for a 10" tablet) could make a stronger case than most. But, in general, half the size of a 10" tablet doesn't make it half as useful as a 10" tablet and thus worth half the price. Half the size makes it really…

I don't see how that works logically. A 7" tablet is just about exactly as much bigger than a 4" phone as a 10" tablet is bigger than a 7" tablet. Why is one quantum more important than the other? I could just as well say "Double the size makes it really hard to argue that the iPad is notably better than a 7" tablet." with exactly the same justification. I think it's very much taste-dependent. I've used an iPad and b…

>Why is one quantum more important than the other?

I've owned both. Long story short, things like comics, magazines, non-mobile web, etc are terrible on a 7". Consuming this media often involves lots of tapping and zooming. Its annoying. Two people can sit together and watch a TV show or movie comfortable with a 10" tablet. With a 7" its almost like crowding around someone's phone.

Oh, and the 10" opens up this world of remote desktop/citrix apps that suddenly are usable.

I'd also argue that a 10" is just a sexier and more futuristic device. A 7" is typically fatter and has a larger bezel while a 10" has a lot more area to spread this stuff out. There's something really fun about having a thin 10" screen that weighs next to nothing in your hands. This is sci-fi territory here.

I'd also argue that no 7" is really pocketable. Unless you're a woman with a purse or are wearing massive cargo pants, you'll be carrying a bag anyway.

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Any indication whether I will ever be able to buy one? I cant imagine walking into the carphone warehouse tomorrow and picking one up.

Next month for car phone warehouse:

http://eurodroid.com/2012/06/28/16gb-nexus-7-tablet-launchin...

Re: Nexus 7 review: The best $200 tablet you can buy

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I don't see how that works logically. A 7" tablet is just about exactly as much bigger than a 4" phone as a 10" tablet is bigger than a 7" tablet. Why is one quantum more important than the other? I could just as well say "Double the size makes it really hard to argue that the iPad is notably better than a 7" tablet." with exactly the same justification. I think it's very much taste-dependent. I've used an iPad and b…

>Why is one quantum more important than the other? I've owned both. Long story short, things like comics, magazines, non-mobile web, etc are terrible on a 7". Consuming this media often involves lots of tapping and zooming. Its annoying. Two people can sit together and watch a TV show or movie comfortable with a 10" tablet. With a 7" its almost like crowding around someone's phone. Oh, and the 10" opens up this world…

Right: taste dependent. I see what you're saying on some of that, but others just sound ridiculous (e.g. Watching a movie on 10" is bad enough, but sharing the screen? Not in my lifestyle, sorry.)

And some of your points (non-mobile web, remote desktop) mostly just amount to "10 inches is closer to a laptop", which prompts the question of why bother with the tablet when you already have a laptop?

And the rest just sounds like fanboism: why isn't it "really fun" and "sci fi territory" to have a 7" screen that weighs next to nothing in your hands? (And as I stated before, I have to quibble with the weight comment: the iPad is definitely not a one-handed device; I get tired using it like that.)

I'm not really defending the "paperback" form factor, as I haven't used it. I'm just very surprised at the level of resistance. It looks cute to me.

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Cell modem would easily add $100 to the price; not to mention having to pair it with a carrier (which Google doesn't seem willing to do just yet). They could do unlocked, but contract-free, tablet only SIMs aren't very common in the US yet. Plus, don't believe Asus has shipped many cell-equipped tablets yet. Am a bit surprised they didn't do some sort of "instant tethering" feature: tap your phone and tablet, they pi…

I would have gladly paid the $100. The portability of the tablet is its biggest appeal to me. Not having a cell modem kills a lot of my potential use cases.

I don't doubt that SD card slots and 3G radios would have made this a must buy for people, but the biggest issue from Google's perspective is the lack of Android tablet penetration. Android tablets fighting the iPad front have failed to get traction, so Google is going to Kindle Fire route: cheaper cost, quality hardware missing a few bells and whistles. Except in this case the OS running on the device is far superior the Amazon experience.

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"Sorry! Devices on Google Play is not available in your country yet."

I get the next worst result - the $200 tablet would be £130 at current exchange rates but in the age old tech rate-of-exchange it's £200. An apparent ~50% markup is a turn off.

The 8G tablet is only £159 in the UK, or £132.50 before VAT (US prices typically don't include tax). That's about $205 at current market rates, which is as close to the US price as makes no difference.

Surprisingly, the UK is getting the same deal as the US this time round.

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Had there been a microSD slot, it would've been an instabuy. Without it, however, I fear that in 6 months I'll be juggling which applications or media I want to keep on it. I understand that Google's "everything in the Cloud" is an answer to this. Why keep music and movies on the device when you can offload storage? Because I don't want to depend on connectivity, and the device doesn't have native 3G.

That works great until you are subject to an intermittent network connection. Then frustration creeps in!

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is 7" really big enough for a tablet for most people? That's only slightly larger than my phone :/

I've never understood the 7" tablet argument. Yes, the size and price makes it far more appealing for kids. And women who want a Kindle++ that fits in the purse they already carry everywhere (but is too small for a 10" tablet) could make a stronger case than most. But, in general, half the size of a 10" tablet doesn't make it half as useful as a 10" tablet and thus worth half the price. Half the size makes it really…

Personally, I already have a 12" laptop and no smartphone (my wifi-less S60 doesn't really count), so a cheap and small tablet would cover the "really portable media/web viewing" nicely.

A 7" fits in my trouser pockets; for a 10" I'd need to carry my satchel, and then I'd just bring my laptop instead.

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I don't see how that works logically. A 7" tablet is just about exactly as much bigger than a 4" phone as a 10" tablet is bigger than a 7" tablet. Why is one quantum more important than the other? I could just as well say "Double the size makes it really hard to argue that the iPad is notably better than a 7" tablet." with exactly the same justification. I think it's very much taste-dependent. I've used an iPad and b…

>Why is one quantum more important than the other? I've owned both. Long story short, things like comics, magazines, non-mobile web, etc are terrible on a 7". Consuming this media often involves lots of tapping and zooming. Its annoying. Two people can sit together and watch a TV show or movie comfortable with a 10" tablet. With a 7" its almost like crowding around someone's phone. Oh, and the 10" opens up this world…

> Consuming this media often involves lots of tapping and zooming.

That depends on your vision. If your vision is good leave everything small and just read it.

If not, put on some supermarket reading glasses to magnify everything and enjoy.

If it has the resolution, you can make a small device appear big by magnifying it to your eyes with glasses, while still leaving the device physically small.

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