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We need more zero config tools

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Re: We need more zero config tools

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post #30

I would love it more open source tools and projects would subscribe to the "Easy to learn, hard to master" / sane defaults / zero config approach. I used to love the photo editor DarkTable. I would spit out very close to camera Jpeg by default, but I could deep dive into some pictures if I wanted to. I don't know what changed, but with every update it just got harder to get something I liked from the pictures. I stop…

I have some problem with DarkTable too. What are you using now instead?

Re: We need more zero config tools

#53
post #18

I've "riced" Linux machines, Windows machines, different editors, terminals, file browsers, shells, web browsers, even commandline tools, to fully customize my own work machine. I used to install cool tools, new non-standard programs and made edits to config files. Now I basically just install Arch (personal machines) or Debian (servers), and leave almost everything at default. I have a handful of necessary tweaks fo…

So true. I've done it in the past just to get bitten in the a* by my intricate configs or more the lack of them months or sometimes even years later. Working with the standards is the way to go, life is to short to work with VI and intricate configs.

Re: We need more zero config tools

#54
I'm a zsh user with a slightly complicated configuration. Fish or something else more modern with sane defaults could lure me away some day.

I want to like helix. I've been using vim for twenty years. I suppose I have to put in some work to make the switch... no time and limited mental capacity (plus muscle memory).

I have looked at Zellij and decided I like my simple tmux workflow better (it's configured to behave like GNU screen because I have twenty years of muscle memory for that too).

Regarding Lazygit, I actually enjoy using standard git. I am pretty good at branches, rebasing, and other things.

Re: We need more zero config tools

#55
post #54

I'm a zsh user with a slightly complicated configuration. Fish or something else more modern with sane defaults could lure me away some day. I want to like helix. I've been using vim for twenty years. I suppose I have to put in some work to make the switch... no time and limited mental capacity (plus muscle memory). I have looked at Zellij and decided I like my simple tmux workflow better (it's configured to behave l…

agree with you on all fronts there aside from lazygit; I see it as a different tool that makes it a bit easier to inspect change trees with less typing.

I can do it on straight git-cli; but 100 characters typed vs 5 makes my fingers ache thinking. Same reason I have fugutive/diffview installed in nvim.

Re: We need more zero config tools

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post #52
post #30

I would love it more open source tools and projects would subscribe to the "Easy to learn, hard to master" / sane defaults / zero config approach. I used to love the photo editor DarkTable. I would spit out very close to camera Jpeg by default, but I could deep dive into some pictures if I wanted to. I don't know what changed, but with every update it just got harder to get something I liked from the pictures. I stop…

I have some problem with DarkTable too. What are you using now instead?

I started to use CaptureOne from the high seas. Yarrr. The only program I acquired that way. I just got to frustrated with DarkTable.

It's really good at just spitting out images that look decent without changing a dial.

Re: We need more zero config tools

#57
post #18

I've "riced" Linux machines, Windows machines, different editors, terminals, file browsers, shells, web browsers, even commandline tools, to fully customize my own work machine. I used to install cool tools, new non-standard programs and made edits to config files. Now I basically just install Arch (personal machines) or Debian (servers), and leave almost everything at default. I have a handful of necessary tweaks fo…

I feel called out.

Re: We need more zero config tools

#58
post #15

So essentially we need more sane defaults? I've read about sane defaults before, it used to be a best practice haha.

It's not just defaults though. E.g. fish comes with actual integrations with e.g. git, whoch requires both some code and some configuration. So IMO it goes much further than that: the best tools are the ones that do actually solve most common issues straight of the box, even if it takes more effort from developers.

Re: We need more zero config tools

#59

I try to use most of the tools (linux) as standard as possible without customisation including shortcut keys. The problem is, once you are in remote sever/dev ops boxes, you can't have fancy tools or fancy shortcuts. It's better to train your mind to standard tools as much as possible.

Just because we don't have access to great tools when working in remote server doesn't mean we shouldn't use them locally. I use Vim with lots of plugins on my personal projects, I use IntelliJ at work. But if I need to ssh and vi, it's ok, I know how to it efficiently. With Fleet or VSCode you can easily use your dev environment with your tools, plugins, shortcode to work on remote codebase via SSH.

Re: We need more zero config tools

#60
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My Android homepage had a 4 hour setup process, it was not fun but oh god it's cool.

Please tell us more

https://i.imgur.com/WrQlpQu.jpeg

Basically i had to get the wave just right (animated backgroud, the app name is Wave) and it took a lot. it is ALL parametric

Launcher nova

I had to turn all my app icon blue with the Borealis icon pack (or something similar but blue, i just noticed a lot of tech app were blue and...lets make all of them blue)

Then i had find some way to organize better the app for suability and i admit the 4h was mostly login and authenticate all the apps i had

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