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Re: Piracy

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Post by alexey-salmin »

codelord wrote: post #31

Having worked in the game industry in the past it's amusing to see people talk about the greed of game developers. You have no idea! You have no idea what an effort it takes to ship a game. An album is the work of one or a few individuals for a relatively short period of time with very little cost. Because of that you can have services like Spotify that allow pretty much access to all the music ever created for a 10$…

Did you read the article? The problem is not the price, the problem is you can't buy and own stuff no matter what you pay.

Re: Piracy

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Post by averageRoyalty »

codelord wrote: post #31

Having worked in the game industry in the past it's amusing to see people talk about the greed of game developers. You have no idea! You have no idea what an effort it takes to ship a game. An album is the work of one or a few individuals for a relatively short period of time with very little cost. Because of that you can have services like Spotify that allow pretty much access to all the music ever created for a 10$…

> Most games fail to pay for their production costs despite all the effort that goes into them.

Yet for decades before the forced-online/micro-transaction ecosystem, tens (hundreds?) of thousands of games were made, sold for a singular price and the industry spun on.

Nobody is complaining about the price, the complaint is about the indentured nature of modern game sales and the ephemeral state of the online elements that most players don't want or care about.

Re: Piracy

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Post by fsflover »

anal_reactor wrote: post #28
dailykoder wrote: post #3

> The streaming platforms, for which you pay full price, don’t even let you choose the quality of the movie you want to watch. What you watch today might disappear from all platforms in two months. I have seen so many songs disappear from Spotify lately that I am considering to hoard music again. Gladly I have most of those that disappeared on my HDD anyways, since it's been mostly old songs, but yeah. Was kinda frus…

How do you discover new music? That's been an issue for me, considering how I don't use Spotify.

Bandcamp.com

Re: Piracy

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Post by averageRoyalty »

remedan wrote: post #50
voidUpdate wrote: post #27

> "Look, no one pirates music anymore" I must be the last person that does then. All my music is ripped from youtube

Do yourself the favor of joining Red and download your music in flac or mp3 made from high-quality sources instead of YouTube. The interview is not hard to pass if you prepare for it.

Was red the eventual winner after what/pth? I never found out what happened post what.

Re: Piracy

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Post by averageRoyalty »

globular-toast wrote: post #22

I don't think Spotify should be celebrated. For a start, Spotify exists because the music companies basically lost against piracy, but it was their own fault. That devalued recorded music to such an extent they had to change that business model. They collect a paltry amount from streaming (the artists get even less), but it's all they can get now. They've changed their model entirely. Bands are gone. Generic, marketa…

> Want to listen to Queen? Well, I hope you like the god awful remasters, because that's all that is available on Spotify.

A tangant, but has anyone noticed a number of albums on Spotify have been replaced with "deluxe" versions recently? I feel like every time I go to listen to an old favourite albums of mine, new tracks have been inserted which completely break the flow.

Re: Piracy

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Post by fsflover »

fersarr wrote: post #20
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #18

I have pirated everything my whole life and I will proudly pirate these things forever. I do pay for original music, media, movies, but I also pirate everything. These two things are not mutually exclusive and I think every person who is interested in having and owning their own media should be pirating.

How do you pirate songs these days?

Try torrents inside I2P.

Re: Piracy

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Post by voidUpdate »

remedan wrote: post #50
voidUpdate wrote: post #27

> "Look, no one pirates music anymore" I must be the last person that does then. All my music is ripped from youtube

Do yourself the favor of joining Red and download your music in flac or mp3 made from high-quality sources instead of YouTube. The interview is not hard to pass if you prepare for it.

I'm not entirely sure what Red is, but all my music is in MP3 and it sounds fine to me. I'm not exactly an audiophile, so youtube music over bluetooth headphones sounds perfectly acceptable to me. It has the beeps and boops that I desire

Re: Piracy

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Post by exitb »

globular-toast wrote: post #22

I don't think Spotify should be celebrated. For a start, Spotify exists because the music companies basically lost against piracy, but it was their own fault. That devalued recorded music to such an extent they had to change that business model. They collect a paltry amount from streaming (the artists get even less), but it's all they can get now. They've changed their model entirely. Bands are gone. Generic, marketa…

The one thing Spotify (and other streaming services) has going for it, is that it's fairly cheap compared to other means of acquiring music. You get what you pay for. It's fine if you want to test drive that Queen album before you buy a great vinyl master.

Re: Piracy

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Post by close04 »

fourfour3 wrote: post #46
dartharva wrote: post #36

GOG exists. Blu-ray discs of movies, shows and music exist. Even when consumers have the option to buy from those modes, they don't. They prefer Steam and Netflix and Spotify instead. Why? Because contrary to the opinion of a couple of online aficionados, the masses don't care that much about preserving media after they have consumed them once, or once the trend has subsided. The market has spoken, the affordability…

Steam doesn’t really compare to Netflix and Spotify - it’s not a subscription service where you can play whatever is currently available and titles appear and disappear with no notice. You buy individual games on Steam and it stays on your account indefinitely - you do have to pick and choose what you buy. Something like Microsoft’s Game Pass is closer to Netflix and Spotify than Steam. Steam is more like the old iTu…

> Steam doesn’t really compare to Netflix and Spotify - it’s not a subscription service where you can play whatever is currently available and titles appear and disappear with no notice.

This is true, you don't need to pay an ongoing subscription for continued access to the games.

> You buy individual games on Steam and it stays on your account indefinitely - you do have to pick and choose what you buy.

But I'm very wary of that "indefinitely". Steam doesn't set an expiration date but they can do it at a moment's notice. Save goes for any store where the purchase (rental?) is permanently tied to the store.

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