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BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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The lack of s3-like remotes support was the reason I switched from borg to restic

rclone has dedupe, I think it does what restic can do plus multiple cloud support. rclone crypt also does encryption. so far I think rclone has it all for me.

rclone and restic are not direct alternatives. They have a slight overlap, but are also different. Rclone is more versatile for moving/copying files. Restic has snapshotting, pruning, client side encryption, deduplication, and compression. Restic actually supports rclone as a backend.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

#54
post #23

If you're looking for cheap online storage for your backups know this: A Microsoft 365 Single subscription comes with 1 TB of OneDrive space (Family subscriptions with 1 TB per person). I've been using it with restic + rclone successfully for years. It's not very fast, but works.

I'd recommend having a look at Hetzner's "storage box" products. It's hard to beat 4€ a month for 1TB of SSH accessible storage.

Seconding this, I use it to backup my server hosted elsewhere and it works flawlessly. They even support borg out of the box https://docs.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box/access/access-s...

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

#55
I've happily been writing borg backups to rsync.net for years. They have support for forcing borg in the ssh session using force-command, and borg has options that can prevent deletion (should the backup ssh key be compromised).

Overall it's a robust solution that isn't too painful to setup.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

#56

I used to use Borg but the fact that it can't work with a dumb storage device like SMB meant I eventually moved to Rustic, which is even better: https://github.com/rustic-rs/rustic

I see they have gotten support for S3 (and other storage providers) via OpenDal. Might need to revisit rustic for my backup needs then! I once started looking at what it would take to build a GUI using Tauri (Rust backend JS/Web frontend), but didn't have time to figure out the APIs.

What I really like about Rustic is that it understands .gitignore natively so you can backup your entire workspace without dragging a lot of dependencies, compiled binaries, and other unnecessary data with you into your backups.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

#58
post #55

I've happily been writing borg backups to rsync.net for years. They have support for forcing borg in the ssh session using force-command, and borg has options that can prevent deletion (should the backup ssh key be compromised). Overall it's a robust solution that isn't too painful to setup.

I second this. I was looking for a solution that prevented a compromised host from deleting its own backups. Forcing the command as you mentioned works for rsync.net, and its snapshots also provide a protection against fat finger errors.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

#59
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

rclone has dedupe, I think it does what restic can do plus multiple cloud support. rclone crypt also does encryption. so far I think rclone has it all for me.

Rclone doesn’t have deduplication. That’s just finding files with the same name. It’s different from deduplication used in backup software. Think of grinding data in a big machine, and removing blocks that are redundant. You may have every file to be a single copy, and get significant space reduction.

Rclone also has a hash-based dedupe mode. Still different from borg, but it can be a little more robust than name-based.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

#60
post #23

If you're looking for cheap online storage for your backups know this: A Microsoft 365 Single subscription comes with 1 TB of OneDrive space (Family subscriptions with 1 TB per person). I've been using it with restic + rclone successfully for years. It's not very fast, but works.

I'd recommend having a look at Hetzner's "storage box" products. It's hard to beat 4€ a month for 1TB of SSH accessible storage.

SSH access on the storage boxes is quite limited:

> It is possible to get interactive SSH access, but this access is limited. It is not possible to have interactive access via port 22, but it is possible via port 23. There is no full shell. For example, it is not possible to use pipes or redirects. It is also not possible to execute uploaded scripts.

https://docs.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box/access/access-s...

https://docs.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box/access/access-s...

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