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Notion's mid-life crisis

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Re: Notion's mid-life crisis

#51
It's always amazed me that Notion got as popular as it did. It's not exactly user-friendly nor technically cappable (not having API or any kind of external integration for most of its existence).

There seems to be a group of nerds that's apparently pretty huge and have enough decision making power that it was able to tap into.

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#53

I use Notion because I have to, not because I like it. Other teams still use Confluence. People said Notion is a lot better than Confluence. Well, I agree I'd rather use it over Confluence, but that's a very low bar for comparison. For ages they didn't have a find-and-replace feature. I just checked, it looks like they've finally added it in the last few months, but this is the first I notice. They claim you can expo…

Actually today's Confluence is much better than Notion in my opinion.

It has a built in Figma style diagram/flow-chart editor which is handy for architecture documents, infinite array of plugins and the interface is simple, clean and focused.

Notion has become this kitchen sink app where even editing a table is a convoluted mess of an experience.

Re: Notion's mid-life crisis

#54
If you are looking for a self-hostable Notion alternative, I am building Docmost, which is open source.

It has real-time collaboration and support for diagrams (drawio, excalidraw and mermaid).

It can be tempting to want to do it all, but I am focused on building a great wiki and documentation software.

GitHub: https://github.com/docmost/docmost

Re: Notion's mid-life crisis

#55
Another anecdote added to the "I don't get notion" pile.

I just don't get notion. I use Apple Notes for everything id use notion for + scratch.txt on every project folder root. (i've used notion, quip, gdocs, dropbox paper)

Notion lives rent free in my mind because while im indifferent to it, people seem to LOVE it. and that's so fascinating.

even this article, I upvoted it because the conversation about notion is interesting, the article itself is a dud after reading it.

we live in a world where Notion is a multi billion dollar company and i have no idea why—now that's interesting!

Re: Notion's mid-life crisis

#56

I enjoyed Notion at first for certain tasks, but it became much less enjoyable as everyone tried to force everything into emoji-laden Notion docs. The Notion spaces used by the Product and Program managers I worked with in the past few years have become a collection of half-finished documents that are always out of date, hard to find, and often superseded by some new Notion page they created but forgot to tell us abo…

> A tool that tries to be everything to everyone

Jira doesn't try to be everything. It's a project management app. It does nothing else.

Notion is wiki, CRM, project management, calendar etc.

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#58

This is a fun piece of creative writing, but I’m not quite sure of the point it’s trying to make about Notion. Is it that Notion is no longer cool? That might be true but isn’t the most insightful comment. Is it about Notion the company languishing in some way?

Notion is jumping the shark by moving from being a notes organization / mini database product to trying to compete with Salesforce and Hubspot. Just completely a different sector / product.

Often this happens when companies raising more funds when there are no funds available for that sector. Suddenly it's not cool to be a car rental company, they also need to become a logistics platform or bank.

Re: Notion's mid-life crisis

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So far, the only weakness I've found with Obsidian are the tables. Someone needs to build in a killer tables feature. Obsidian is an Electron app; it shouldn't be too hard to build a stripped down version of Google Sheets.

Check out the Advanced Tables plugin - https://github.com/tgrosinger/advanced-tables-obsidian

Unfortunately, it's nowhere close to Notion tables or spreadsheets in general. Formulas are very primitive (eg aggregation is either sum or mean), the syntax is confusing, and you have to manually re-evaluate them. Tables are Obsidian's main weakness to me.

Re: Notion's mid-life crisis

#60

I like Notion but I share the sense that it's not really targeted at my use case anymore. I think I could essentially move everything into Obsidian and lose almost nothing in the process. I just use it for taking notes and writing stuff down. I like how easy it is to drop an image, video, or document into a notion page, but I've only barely used features like databases which seem to be the big selling point, and none…

I'm very curious how and why to use Obsidian well. It's so confusing I've given up multiple times.

Don't buy into all the crazy around it. It's a Markdown editor with some organisation features. If you read Reddit, people treat it like some sort of second coming, making sure EVERY NOTE THEY TAKE is linked at least one other, tagged, etc. Like somehow that makes notes better. I was confused at first too but once I realised most of these people are insane and it's a note taking app, it's very easy simple and quick to use. I love it.
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