AI is a tool which will be weaponized / monetized to its maximum potential against perceived enemies and for the best profits
Just like every other technology ever?
OpenAI as we knew it is dead
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Re: OpenAI as we knew it is dead
#52Other commenters are quick to point out that commercial interests always win, which is somewhat true, but misses an important point: OpenAI wasn’t originally a commercial company. This is basically someone stealing a nonprofit organization — structurally not dissimilar to someone robbing the funds a charity for children with cancer. I don’t get why people shrug, or even celebrate this, instead of demanding jail time.
If this is legal than isn't this the best way to do a startup from now on?
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#53A typical one sided, opinionated view from Vox that has made modern media the wasteland it is. The article seems to be intent on rewriting history. Apparently due to “Microsoft” Sam Altman came back to OpenAI after his ouster. There was also the added fact that the CTO Greg resigned, quickly followed by the leads of GPT-4, quickly followed by an employee petition that most openAI employees signed. Sam has clearly ins…
> I wouldn’t say OpenAI is even among the most greedy companies in the space.
Sure, that's unchecked capitalism for you, but it's not a compelling reason for giving them a pass or looking the other way.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
The public has no stomach for collective action anymore. All for one and one for all? Nah, man, what’s yours is mine and what’s mine is mine.
Agreed but historically at least this came from a strong executive, not from collective action. FDR, for example.
Government is the avatar of collective action. People vote for and otherwise tolerate a strong executive when they believe in "all for one and one for all". FDR was elected by a landslide on a platform of heavy government interventionism to address the Great Depression.
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#55Sam Altman looks more and more like Lex Luthor in the last Superman franchise... He is not releasing any kind of alien creature on the world, of course... Wait...
Nah, that's Musk 100%. Sam is still in the small leagues.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the downvotes to prove my point
I don’t think anyone disagrees that companies only do what benefits their bottom line, that’s pretty much the consensus here. You’re probably downvoted because you’re comment comes off as very aggressive/lecturing.
Also completely wrong. HN has no restrictions on being cynical about companies.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, it used to be non-profit which should not have goal like that. And changing that was "selling us out".
You are correct that non-profits have different purposes. Is "us" the 8 billion people on earth, I assume?
The org has dif't purposes but the people staffing them often don't.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t think anyone disagrees that companies only do what benefits their bottom line, that’s pretty much the consensus here. You’re probably downvoted because you’re comment comes off as very aggressive/lecturing.
Also completely wrong. HN has no restrictions on being cynical about companies.
I don’t get your response, did I say anything else? I never said that HN has a restriction on being cynical about companies.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed but historically at least this came from a strong executive, not from collective action. FDR, for example.
Government is the avatar of collective action. People vote for and otherwise tolerate a strong executive when they believe in "all for one and one for all". FDR was elected by a landslide on a platform of heavy government interventionism to address the Great Depression.
Totally agree.
I think with the suburban explosion and rise of the personal automobile we’ve seen individualism trump collectivism. I don’t think we’ll ever see a new deal or social security like initiative in America until the power structures in our society are changed fundamentally.