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Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you bought the news paper (or someone else did). FYI I use revenced as well, it's just your argument doesn't sound very sane.

You could argue that paying for the internet service to reach a website is equivalent to buying the newspaper.

It's funny that this poor argument is used as a justification for the use of poor arguments.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

#52

I pay for YouTube Premium and saw a full browser screen ad for adding the MAX channel. I wasn’t sure if I clicked on something or if this is a new thing they’re doing. I’ll be pretty unhappy if the latter.

It takes my breath away every time someone says they're paying for YouTube.

Yeah. Why don’t they just steal and not support creators.

I pay for content I like.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

#53
lots of things the advertising companies like Google do makes more sense if you think of it like this: line has to go up and to the right forever. if natural demand isn't going up, then they'll squeeze the stone harder, doing stuff like this, or breaking adblockers, or more ads for non-premium users, etc etc

the idea of "revenue and profit shouldn't/can't go up forever and that's OK" is not a concept the CEO will accept.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

#54

I pay for YouTube Premium and saw a full browser screen ad for adding the MAX channel. I wasn’t sure if I clicked on something or if this is a new thing they’re doing. I’ll be pretty unhappy if the latter.

I'm a premium subscriber too, and got a full page ad (that was hard to dismiss) for -- I don't really remember -- something related to football, I think?

Regardless, that was way over the line and so I am finally leaving YouTube entirely. Screw them.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

#55

I pay for YouTube Premium and saw a full browser screen ad for adding the MAX channel. I wasn’t sure if I clicked on something or if this is a new thing they’re doing. I’ll be pretty unhappy if the latter.

It takes my breath away every time someone says they're paying for YouTube.

It's not so hard to understand. I pay because I don't want to see the ads, but I do want to see the videos.

Before you tell me about all the ways to just block the YouTube ads, I know about them. They just aren't for me.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could argue that paying for the internet service to reach a website is equivalent to buying the newspaper.

It's funny that this poor argument is used as a justification for the use of poor arguments.

It's not really a poor argument. This was the understanding of how the internet worked before we decided to use the internet to replace TV. There was never a guarantee of payment to anyone running a public web server.

But I think you've highlighted exactly why net neutrality is terrible in practice (people effectively stealing bandwidth by blocking ads).

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

#57
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you bought the news paper (or someone else did). FYI I use revenced as well, it's just your argument doesn't sound very sane.

You could argue that paying for the internet service to reach a website is equivalent to buying the newspaper.

How? Buying the newspaper pays the people printing the newspaper and making the paper. Whereas not a cent from paying for internet service goes to third party websites like YouTube.

It's like saying stealing from stores is okay because paying taxes for the upkeep of roads is equivalent to paying for the stores.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like cutting out the funnies from a newspaper and trashing the ads.

But you bought the news paper (or someone else did). FYI I use revenced as well, it's just your argument doesn't sound very sane.

Like a sibling comment mentioned, I was considering that newspapers got non-trivial amounts of funding from ads. Classifieds in particular, if I remember correctly. If that's still not satisfactory, then just consider the case of free papers & magazines.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could argue that paying for the internet service to reach a website is equivalent to buying the newspaper.

How? Buying the newspaper pays the people printing the newspaper and making the paper. Whereas not a cent from paying for internet service goes to third party websites like YouTube. It's like saying stealing from stores is okay because paying taxes for the upkeep of roads is equivalent to paying for the stores.

Physical newspapers lost money on printing and distribution. Subscription fees and purchase price did not cover the cost of printing and distributing that bundle of paper. The vast majority of their income was from ads. So your argument is really even worse with that in mind - physical newspapers were more dependent on ads than internet websites. And even with that in mind, I don't think anyone would say having a robot cutting out newspaper ads to be stealing.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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I pay for YouTube Premium and saw a full browser screen ad for adding the MAX channel. I wasn’t sure if I clicked on something or if this is a new thing they’re doing. I’ll be pretty unhappy if the latter.

It takes my breath away every time someone says they're paying for YouTube.

I only pay ($2.50 a month) because they killed youtube vanced project, and I want to use it on my phone without ads and with the screen off. I signed up with a VPN in a developing country to make it much cheaper
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