iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by minimaxir » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 6:54 PM UTC

The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/

The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about.

ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is enough to justfy the upcharge, but it's a surprise they aren't locking a new feature this time.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by xattt » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 6:54 PM UTC

ayhanfuat wrote: post #28

laweijfmvo wrote: post #24

So did they just give up on Blood-Oxygen sensing on the Watch? Thought it might be a good time to update my Watch 6 (black titanium) to a 10, since they brought back the black titanium, but they just have no answer for the blood-oxygen lawsuit?

Maybe they are just not reporting it. Sleep apnea detection is probably using blood oxygen levels.

It’s pretty unsexy for Apple to say they’re using their sound recognition tech to listen for snoring.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by asdff » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 6:54 PM UTC

tiffanyh wrote: post #25

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #3

Ehh. Lacklustre.

Just curious, what specifically were you hoping for - from a product that is 17-years old?

At this point its just sad that its spec bumps on what imo is a pretty poor iteration of their own product. They had better ideas in the past that I wish they would rehash just for the sake of offering more skus to choose from vs "small and large." I liked 3d touch. I liked touchid. I liked having a headphone jack. I liked a small and lightweight phone. I liked a phone that actually sat flat on a table. It's just a shame that this is clearly never going to be made by them today, and being reminded of this through yet another paltry spec bump with stingy storage offerings that's been all too typical from this company with this product lately.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by souvlakee » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 6:55 PM UTC

souvlakee wrote: post #17

The more I watch, the sadder I get. It seems they've gone in the wrong direction. They have nothing to offer regular phone users, so they're targeting "creative professionals" with fancy features.

Also, my take on the new cinematic mode is that they should invest in a better camera if they can afford such fireworks.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by MangoCoffee » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 6:55 PM UTC

pistolpeteDK wrote: post #20

Interesting to see how they're marketing increasingly minor improvements as major breakthroughs. 16 Pro: Better camera, more zoom, dedicated camera button… isn’t that it? WiFi 7, faster ray tracing, USB-C/USB 3? Hard to imagine many people really need that. Have we witnessed peak Apple? Apple Watch: minimal updates. AirPods Max: new color. AirPods: some minor tweaks.

Smartphone has reached its peak. What's left to innovate? maybe Huawei's triple-fold phone(?)

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by hintymad » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 6:55 PM UTC

ashconnor wrote: post #5

Shocked they are still using 128GB as the starting storage size.

For people who want 256GB, they might as well just buy iphone pro max. It will be just $100 more compared to iphone pro.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by jpalomaki » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 6:55 PM UTC

numbers wrote: post #18

Good updates to the video recording, event was okay...kinda boring. Airpods Max got no updates just color, why even mention them?

They got USB-C

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by coconut08 » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 6:55 PM UTC

throwaway290 wrote: post #14

haunter wrote: post #2

Probably gonna upgrade from my iPhone 11 to a 16 Pro, seems like a good time to make the jump (also I'd need a battery replacement anyway and I rather spend that money on the new phone)

I am also on 11. To be honest, I do not want to jump from LCD to OLED, for me it's a downgrade:( (I often use it on low brightness in dim ambient light)

what is wrong with oled?

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by nabaraz » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 6:55 PM UTC

pistolpeteDK wrote: post #20

Interesting to see how they're marketing increasingly minor improvements as major breakthroughs. 16 Pro: Better camera, more zoom, dedicated camera button… isn’t that it? WiFi 7, faster ray tracing, USB-C/USB 3? Hard to imagine many people really need that. Have we witnessed peak Apple? Apple Watch: minimal updates. AirPods Max: new color. AirPods: some minor tweaks.

What about any other things like Word, Operating System, Cars? Are they not all doing smaller improvements year after year.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by tekacs » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 6:57 PM UTC

cube2222 wrote: post #19

I was planning to upgrade this year, and probably still will, but honestly, the differences between the base model and pro model this year are fairly limited. ProMotion, Always-on display, a bunch more resistant to fall damage, and a camera that is better, but doesn't look like a lot. I'm a bit worried about the Apple Intelligence features, as they've been very prominent on WWDC, but were fairly toned-down today. Not…

I've had notification summaries turned on for at least a few weeks as part of the iOS 18 Beta and I can sadly report that they seem to be very very low quality.

On occasion they'll squash down something that is better read tersely, but I've overwhelmingly found them to make the content worse than simply reading the original text.

I was really hopeful about them going in, but it seems like it might need an iteration or two more.