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Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

#51

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Another TPM thing? What problem do you have with the TPM?

It being a Win11 requirement. It failing and triggering Bitlocker on our machines. It's just shit :) No I don't have another solution. Let me complain.

What garbage hardware are you running where TPM is failing?

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

#52
post #18

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People have been saying that for more than 10 years now, since the TPM was introduced. Yet you can still install Linux on PCs sold with Windows, you can still install third party software on Windows not from a Store, you can still watch pirated movies downloaded from torrents. You can even run an unregistered/unpaid version of Windows if you don't mind that it will not let you change the desktop background image.

Or you can recognize that app/game developers are starting to require Secure Boot enforcement if you want to continue to use their apps or play their games. RIOT requires users to enable TPM-enforced Secure Boot starting with Windows 11 to play Valorant: https://support-valorant.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/100...

People who are concerned about this should realize: Microsoft will never create a situation where alternative operating systems can’t be installed. They already went through the antitrust ringer on that issue. They don’t even control what hardware vendors do for the most part.

This requirement will only hit multiplayer games where cheating and security threats are rampant.

Also, if you have a PC with secure boot enabled, there are popular Linux distributions like Ubuntu that have a signed key. Or, you can add a signing key to the firmware, depending on your hardware. And of course, most commercially available PCs will let you disable secure boot entirely.

(Most multiplayer games with anti-cheat software don’t really work on Linux anyway.)

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

#53

MAS (which is also hosted on Github) is the perfect example of Microsoft not caring about end user piracy. Just use it.

I have no idea how to get access to LTSC Windows without it. I have bought Windows PRO keys in case someone asks one day, but as a person, I really don't know how to get the not annoying Windows that is available for companies.

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

#54
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MAS (which is also hosted on Github) is the perfect example of Microsoft not caring about end user piracy. Just use it.

Maybe it's beneficial for Microsoft that solutions like that are FOSS so they can more easily inspect the code for prevention purposes in the future?

I think Microsoft is just purposefully lax about enforcing their own trademarks on their own properties. It could be due to organizational memory of their antitrust case. It could be to avoid bad publicity (like the recent spat where youtube took down a video teaching people how to use adblockers).

Another example of this: the leaked Windows source code is available straight from GitHub.

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

#55

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>does anyone still believe that Pluton, also copy-pasted from the Xbox, is about end user security? I never did. The worst part is explaining it to people drinking the MS coolaid. I'm an MS admin so people at work love Win11, Intune etc all that max lockdown shit. To me that's not what Windows is about, for me Windows is excellent because of the admin tools and backwards compatibility. But hey that's just me. Proton…

Another TPM thing? What problem do you have with the TPM?

The TPM thing that got hacked the other day?

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

#57
post #53

MAS (which is also hosted on Github) is the perfect example of Microsoft not caring about end user piracy. Just use it.

I have no idea how to get access to LTSC Windows without it. I have bought Windows PRO keys in case someone asks one day, but as a person, I really don't know how to get the not annoying Windows that is available for companies.

The pro keys won't cover you if someone asks. You're not licensed for LTSC and you can't have it without an enterprise agreement. It's still piracy. you might as well have not even paid for the pro keys.

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

#58
post #18

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Or you can recognize that app/game developers are starting to require Secure Boot enforcement if you want to continue to use their apps or play their games. RIOT requires users to enable TPM-enforced Secure Boot starting with Windows 11 to play Valorant: https://support-valorant.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/100...

And why is that? It isn't for DRM (the game is free). It is for anti-cheat, and it is great. The libertarian maximalist i-can-do-what-i-want-with-my-computer ignore the many use cases where I want to trust something about someone else's computer, and trusted computing enables those use cases.

> It is for anti-cheat, and it is great.

How is it great? Vanguard is extremely invasive; having kernel access, you have to relinquish your PC to this chinese-owned company at all times (whether you're playing the game or not), and just trust in their good faith.

And for what? Cheaters are more rampant than ever, now that they have moved to DMA type cheats, which can't (and never will) be detected by Vanguard.

So you give away complete control of your PC to play a game with as many cheaters as any other game. I wouldn't call that "great".

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

#60
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TPM end game is to have identity tied to a device on pcs, just like the monopolies already have on Android and IOS. you know how google and apple dropped actual totp 2nd factor for their own accounts and force you to sign on another device to confirm signing on new devices? same thing.

Apple has SMS if you don’t own an Apple device. In fact, they require SMS to set up 2FA. They probably dropped totp because non-technical people can’t figure it out.

SMS is not really great.
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