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Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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post #47

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No. But people do want large action models and for that you need a training dataset, which is what Recall will provide.

That model would have to be trained locally since the data never leaves the device

So they say..

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

#52
post #47

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That model would have to be trained locally since the data never leaves the device

So they say..

This is some serious tinfoil hattery.

The data is not small. If it was being uploaded, you'd notice.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

#53

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No one really cares about that "EOL" crap unless they've been brainwashed by the FUD. A lot of very important software[1] still works on Vista or 7, and a large portion of that even on XP and below. Also don't forget that Win10 IoT LTSC is officially supported until 2032. [1] Not things like the latest games, but LOB applications and related software that companies rely on for their work.

No longer receiving security updates on an OS who receives most malware and has a history of vulnerabilities isn't FUD

Exactly the sort of brainwashing I was referring to. Security depends entirely on your threat model.

Look up the CVE stats by OS and you'll see the truth.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

#54
post #52

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So they say..

This is some serious tinfoil hattery. The data is not small. If it was being uploaded, you'd notice.

If screenshots were OCRed and then only text was uploaded, I doubt you would notice anything.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

#56
post #43

Literally no one wants this “feature”. Microsoft has lost their collective minds.

I do. In fact I already record my screen and steam it to my NAS for automatic time tracking and OCR search. It'd be nice to have a less a less janky solution. I'm kinda surprised people just throw away their history. I love being able to restore deleted posts as long as I remember a few words of the content

in all kindness, you're such an incredibly niche example of actual usage of this, that only proves it should've been opt-in instead of opt-out. I don't need to know what my tabs were 3 months ago. I don't need to treasure my precious history of browsing amazon for vacuum cleaners.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

#57
post #5

It is possible to uninstall any Windows component if you know which files contain it. And it's not like Windows would refuse to boot if Recall exe/dlls suddenly go missing. (this website is behind Cloudflare and blocks me unless I use a VPN)

I've noticed Windows is buggier when I disable certain features or tweak certain configurations. I'm not suggesting it's deliberate, but maybe just not well tested by Microsoft. For example, using the registry to disable copilot features, or disabling bing search in the start menu, are scenarios which are not going to be as well tested as the default configuration.

So maybe windows will still boot after "uninstalling" recall, but it could have other consequences that make the operating system less stable.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

#58
post #37
post #15

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Yeah, Win10 will be my last Windows once the curtain starts to fall. Win11 has only got more invasive since release.

Win7 4 lyfe. dozens of less RCE opportunities by the day.

Exactly. Known unknowns vs. unknown unknowns.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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No longer receiving security updates on an OS who receives most malware and has a history of vulnerabilities isn't FUD

Exactly the sort of brainwashing I was referring to. Security depends entirely on your threat model. Look up the CVE stats by OS and you'll see the truth.

> Look up the CVE stats by OS

2024: https://www.cvedetails.com/top-50-products.php?year=2024

9 of 10 are Windows branded operating systems. 3,276 across all of these platforms. Of these, over 1,000 are different versions of Windows 10. Compared to 1799 on the Linux kernel, which is actively developed and will be actively developed for the foreseeable future.

Are you arguing that Windows doesn't continuously get CVE entries? That is not supported by the data.

It is not logical to arrive at the conclusion that after the manufacturer states they will no longer address vulnerabilities, which are actively being found as if this year, that this is FUD.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

#60

I had to replace an aeging Windows laptop recently, and MS (and to a lesser extent Apple) going all-in on this kind of AI boondoggle finally gave me the shove I needed to go Linux-only (not dual booting as I'd done in the past, or WSL as I've been doing more recently). Framework made the landing soft, and I'm really excited to never look back. I wish this were a more accessible path for non-tech people.

> I wish this were a more accessible path for non-tech people.

It should be forbidden to ship PCs with Windows preinstalled, unless the user made it a conscious purchase decision (and offered to choose between several options). I suspect fewer and fewer users would be willing to fork hundreds of bucks for something that's objectively terrible (and only getting worse), tech literacy would only improve as a result.

But then you can bet Microsoft lobbying won't let that happen.

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