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Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by throwway120385 »

illegalmemory wrote: post #41
miroljub wrote: post #16

Can confirm. Google is a new Microsoft, they leverage their position to cross promote their shit browser and their shit data stealing services. Sorry guys, if your data collection website doesn't work well with Firefox and uBlock Origin, I just won't use it.

Not only YouTube, but even Google Meet is completely unusable on Firefox. I've noticed memory usage spikes on Firefox, while all other video conferencing platforms work fine. On Chrome, it works perfectly.

It'll also randomly bug out and drop the network connection. Although it is so far the only videoconferencing platform that actually works with Pipewire.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by pragmar »

Became unusable for me (Firefox/Win) a few months back on my laptop with integrated intel graphics. Fine on other computers with more capable hardware. The solution was an extension called h264ify. There was something about the vp8/9 codec that was bringing Firefox to its knees. h264ify avoids those codecs altogether on Youtube.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by everyone »

I havent had performance issues, but I did have a very annoying issue recently where it would only show 3 videos per row. I tried a bunch of potential fixes but the one that worked for me was actually adding this custom filter to ublock origin...

youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer:style(--ytd-rich-grid-items-per-row: 5 !important)

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by multimoon »

miroljub wrote: post #16

Can confirm. Google is a new Microsoft, they leverage their position to cross promote their shit browser and their shit data stealing services. Sorry guys, if your data collection website doesn't work well with Firefox and uBlock Origin, I just won't use it.

The behavior is awful, but I wouldn’t call chrome shit. I keep trying to switch away and keep ending back up on it because everything else has inferior performance, or is just a clone of chrome and its rendering engine.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by carpenecopinum »

BenoitEssiambre wrote: post #37

Imo, it's just too difficult to maintain compatibility through a natural language specification. Things like browsers need some kind of open source reference implementation to act as a spec to maintain interoperability. https://benoitessiambre.com/specification.html

1) I'm reasonably confident that this issue is not an accident. Better compatibility / better specs won't help here, I'm afraid.

2) A reference implementation for browser-features is an insanely complex project. Already there are effectively only two entities on the entire planet who can produce a browser that is reasonably close to the current spec. If you forced a reference implementation to exist, it'd probably just end up being Chrome(ium), which is arguably an even worse situation than where we are now.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by danaris »

mykowebhn wrote: post #27

I have the latest Firefox on Mac OS, and no problems for me. I pay for Youtube Premium, though. I wonder if that makes a difference.

I have the latest Firefox on macOS and do not pay for Premium, and I have been having no problems with YouTube.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by gsck »

zarzavat wrote: post #47
darby_nine wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google may yet be forced to divest from Chrome as a result of the recent judgement.

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How so? The parent comment is about Chrome separating from Google, not YouTube.

YouTube would be fine without Chrome.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

exe34 wrote: post #28
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #15

There's a lot of important stuff on YouTube. Google doesn't really feel trustworthy enough to be in charge of it. What options do we have to ensure that people can still access that information or whatever if the degradation gets to a point where it's literally unusable? Is the internet archive sufficient? I feel like I should be participating somehow...

If there's something I value, I keep my own copy.

Do you get much value out of a youtube video the second time around? If I need to figure out which screws to remove or something like that, it's probably the first and last time I'll need that particular information.

If you're not also ensuring that others can access that copy then I don't really see the point.

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