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Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

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#51
Possibly a controversial opinion here but… who cares? I don’t mean this in a snarky way. If you’re an app developer you’ve got limited development time like everyone else. Most phones have at least 128gb internal memory and the app is downloaded over WiFi. I just don’t see this as a constraint. Sure you could have a CDN and lazy load but then the app doesn’t work without internet. Just dump it all on the device.

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

#53

Possibly a controversial opinion here but… who cares? I don’t mean this in a snarky way. If you’re an app developer you’ve got limited development time like everyone else. Most phones have at least 128gb internal memory and the app is downloaded over WiFi. I just don’t see this as a constraint. Sure you could have a CDN and lazy load but then the app doesn’t work without internet. Just dump it all on the device.

To me, it's not so much about the size itself but its correlation with poorly engineered applications that are slow, buggy, and stupid.

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They should just be made properly - a properly made PDF is less than a megabyte, and model pictures should be just hundreds of KB. Takes a lot of models and instructions to burn hundreds of megs that way.

Eh, I disagree. High res images are big no matter what way you cut it, and my mobile resolution is 2550x1800 - I don’t mind the detail. But I don’t need that detail for 15 different toothbrush models.

A 3840x2160 jpeg image at 100% quality is somewhere between 2 and 3 MB, so 15 models makes 45 MB, still way short of + 300 MB for the app.

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

#56
post #24

https://xcancel.com/emergetools/status/1828490449881047401

This is the worst Twitter proxy I've ever seen. It's got one of those idiotic "wait x seconds to view this page" and then a "reload the page". It's like a spam interstitial you get when you're trying to view illegal streams. I can't believe anyone not affiliated with it would post it. Awful tool.

Without that it probably wouldn’t be operating anymore.

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

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post #11

My question is: why do an Oral-B app and a Colgate app even exist?

to log how well you're brushing your teeth, so it can advise you on how to brush your teeth better, so you can have better teeth and not have to see the dentist. it's a late stage technology thing. I wasn't born with an innate ability to know how to brush my teeth or how to shave (my electric razor also has an app), I had to learn how. If the devices I use can tell that I'm using them wrong, and there's a better way…

When I was a child we got taught that at school. They had a large model of the human mouth and an oversized toothbrush. Perhaps that's too low tech for folks nowadays, I don't know.

Apart from the I go to the dentist 2-3 times a year, they do a great job telling me what area of my mouth I need to focus on. A toothbrush wouldn't really be able to give me that info anyway.

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

#58
I bought an electric toothbrush from Walmart for $6.99 probably 5 years ago. It takes Oral-B brush heads and AA batteries. It's not capable of using an app. Who know being a tech guy would make me love as-simple-as-possible "retro" devices.

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

#59
post #11

My question is: why do an Oral-B app and a Colgate app even exist?

To collect data so they can do marketing and advertising to customers.

How does that work here? Say I have that toothbrush, the app, and say I had to sign up to use it. What they know is how long the toothbrush is on. How are they going to monetize that data?

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

#60
post #31
post #11

My question is: why do an Oral-B app and a Colgate app even exist?

The same reason your smartwatch and bathroom scale has an app: People want to log and track their health data.

But you're logging actual data with those? Or do they make tooth brushes which monitor your mouth's biome or something like that these days?
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