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Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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Love it. Maybe one day U.S companies will learn that while they can steal and sell their own peoples information as they please, and they'll even have their own people brainwashed into such a state of stockholm syndrome that they will defend the corporations ability to do so, that's not the culture EU has, and it won't fly here. Corporations are not the peoples identity here, privacy and safety however are.

The surveillance systems in the EU are just as invasive, and frequently moreso, than in the US.

This is largely a false meme, an urban legend. There is no meaningful privacy difference between Europe and the US.

This is simply a money grab; it won’t move the needle on privacy one bit. You’ll still be surveilled everywhere you go in Europe by the state, the mobile operators, and most of the other apps on your phone.

Furthermore, it doesn’t matter if the data stays inside the EU or not. Google collects the same data and the US intelligence agencies can compel them to access the data on EU citizens, stored on EU-located Google servers just the same as if it were in Mountain View.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

#52
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Love it. Maybe one day U.S companies will learn that while they can steal and sell their own peoples information as they please, and they'll even have their own people brainwashed into such a state of stockholm syndrome that they will defend the corporations ability to do so, that's not the culture EU has, and it won't fly here. Corporations are not the peoples identity here, privacy and safety however are.

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Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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I don’t think this kind of « threat thinking » is true. « We find ways to steal from you and it’s still good for you because otherwise you will be left behind without us ». It’s kinda feels like bullying to me

This is an unconventional usage of "theft" in the "you wouldn't steal a car?" way. Could you explain how the Uber drivers are worse off due to their data being in the USA?

Do you mind sending us all US citizens’ data? Just a copy, that is.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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Or maybe all companies will learn to leave EU behind in innovation. Even though the rules are great, I'm just not sure if it will be good or bad long term for EU.

China is by basically all accounts running rings around the US, based on current behaviour, whilst being a much more authoritarian regime. America loves to pretend that no other data points exist so they can attribute whatever good performance they’ve historically seen to whatever supposed cornerstone of American life is advantageous to make whatever point they want to make.

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Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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I'm confused. Thanks to the CloudAct there is not protection of EU user data no matter the location of the servers.

That would be incorrect.

IANAL, but cloud act purpose is to allow the usa government to ask data from USA-based or USA-related services providers, for offsense/crimes.

It does not allow service providers to do anything else with that data.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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post #51
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Love it. Maybe one day U.S companies will learn that while they can steal and sell their own peoples information as they please, and they'll even have their own people brainwashed into such a state of stockholm syndrome that they will defend the corporations ability to do so, that's not the culture EU has, and it won't fly here. Corporations are not the peoples identity here, privacy and safety however are.

The surveillance systems in the EU are just as invasive, and frequently moreso, than in the US. This is largely a false meme, an urban legend. There is no meaningful privacy difference between Europe and the US. This is simply a money grab; it won’t move the needle on privacy one bit. You’ll still be surveilled everywhere you go in Europe by the state, the mobile operators, and most of the other apps on your phone. F…

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Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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If you don’t like it, stop using US-made products. :)

\s, I hope? Not using US-made products is basically impossible in the modern world.

There's Bolt where I am from, they are an Estonian company and have better and cheaper services than Uber.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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No, you see US-headquartered multinationals have a God-given right to freedom, including the freedom to smuggle customer data overseas. God bless America.

If you don’t like it, stop using US-made products. :)

I urge you to read "Technofeudalism" by Yanis Varoufakis or "The Internet Con" by Cory Doctorow to appreciate why this is extremely difficult for consumers and entrepreneurs, and not just an inconvenience.

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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No, you see US-headquartered multinationals have a God-given right to freedom, including the freedom to smuggle customer data overseas. God bless America.

If you don’t like it, stop using US-made products. :)

Or, how about, if US companies don’t like EU regulations, don’t make money from EU residents. :)

Re: Dutch DPA fines Uber €290M because of transfers of drivers’ data to the US

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We have tried systems based on some seemingly absolute moral codex. Some parts of the world are still doing it. Unfortunately it always comes with brutal ways to kill arbitrary groups of people.

You seem to be missing an ethics class. Morality doesn’t have to be like that at all.

So you would say these systems are no true scotsmen?
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