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Re: Make Firefox Private Again

#51
https://support.mozilla.org/no/kb/privacy-preserving-attribu... explains what the setting is about, the important bit being:

  > 3. Firefox creates a report based on what the website asks, but
  > does not give the result to the website. Instead, Firefox encrypts
  > the report and anonymously submits it using the Distributed
  > Aggregation Protocol (DAP) to an “aggregation service”.

  > 4. Your results are combined with many similar reports by the
  > aggregation service. The destination website periodically receives
  > a summary of the reports. The summary includes noise that provides
  > differential privacy.
The above docs also tell you how to turn it off with mouse clicks in regular settings (I don't understand why OP proposes to set it using the command line, perhaps so they can run it as a cronjob in case it gets reset? ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ ).

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The intention of the project seems to be that the surveillance economy should switch over to this less invasive method of tracking you, and that perhaps if only Everyone did that then they would stop doing the worse tracking. Good intentions, but I'm guessing the only real effect it will have is to make some people stop using Firefox, most people not even notice it's there, and trackers will just use this as yet another input among their many other inputs. (OTOH, maybe Mozilla gets paid a lot for this aggregated data, I guess that's "good".)

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't wholly disagree, but it's always a tad ironic to read "money is ruining the free/open internet" discussion on a free forum powered by VC money.

If HN didn't exist people would gather on another link aggregator.

And yet no successful link aggregator has ever been "free" or "open" in a meaningful sense.

Matrix, Lemmy, and many others exist, work well, are free from centralized control, and are well-known to the crowd that frequents this place. And yet users prefer to stick to one of the least transparent platforms of its kind, which could be turned off, or turned into something else entirely, at the whim of a small group of people, with no recourse or accountability.

I've been listening to users lamenting "the tech to avoid centralized control doesn't exist" etc. for 20 years, but it definitely does exist today, and it is now clear that the vast majority of people (including tech people) just don't give a fuck.

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

#55

Author mentions this: https://web.archive.org/web/20181120211720/https://make-linu... pti=off spectre_v2=off l1tf=off nospec_store_bypass_disable no_stf_barrier Looks like a set of kernel params that turn off security features to speed up the OS. Did anyone test it in practice?

Just set mitigations=off if you want this, it's a meta-parameter that enables all the others. I used to run it on old hardware (Haswell) because of significant impact of all those mitigations on IO performance. It's not a problem anymore on my newer Zen 4.

Probably a bad idea in the general case if you work with anything remotely private (ssh keys, banking) and browse the internet routinely. I visit few weird sites and block JS almost everywhere, so it both made sense to me and was relatively safe.

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

#56
What I'd really like is to edit the file (sqlite database?) where my "ad topics" are stored. Just because I search for X once doesn't mean I want to see ads about it in future.

Someone should write instructions for this for both firefox and chrome.

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is Safari. Or whatever is based on WebKit on Linux (there must be some...) GNOME Web/Epiphany (same thing) seems to use WebKit and is officially supported https://webkit.org/downloads/ https://apps.gnome.org/Epiphany/ It seems there is no WebKit browser for Windows.

> There is Safari. Or whatever is based on WebKit on Linux webkit was forked from the kde browser, not the other way.

So? Epiphany is based on WebKit now, KDE Browser doesn't exist anymore. (I needed to check it first.)

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

#58
From the CEO's comments on reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_abo...):

> we support people configuring their browser however they choose

I rate this one as half true. If you leave firefox for a while and come back, it displays a bar with text like "Would you like to refresh your experience?" The first time I clicked that, it uninstalled my adblock extension. Not making that mistake again.

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

#59

From the CEO's comments on reddit ( https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_abo... ): > we support people configuring their browser however they choose I rate this one as half true. If you leave firefox for a while and come back, it displays a bar with text like "Would you like to refresh your experience?" The first time I clicked that, it uninstalled my adblock extension. Not making that mistake aga…

That offer to refresh always seemed a bit strange to me.

It's like Microsoft acknowledging the crust in the registry and offering their own CCleaner. A lot of activity, dubious work actually being done.

Perhaps the effect of profile lifecycles should be addressed if some hand-wavy refresh process may be required and instituted by the application.

Said another way, that's a concern for the program. Not me. This shouldn't amount to wiping the profile/extensions

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

#60

From the CEO's comments on reddit ( https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_abo... ): > we support people configuring their browser however they choose I rate this one as half true. If you leave firefox for a while and come back, it displays a bar with text like "Would you like to refresh your experience?" The first time I clicked that, it uninstalled my adblock extension. Not making that mistake aga…

That offer to refresh always seemed a bit strange to me. It's like Microsoft acknowledging the crust in the registry and offering their own CCleaner. A lot of activity, dubious work actually being done. Perhaps the effect of profile lifecycles should be addressed if some hand-wavy refresh process may be required and instituted by the application. Said another way, that's a concern for the program. Not me. This should…

I think there's been some concern that people compare the speed of Firefox with a bunch of random extensions against Chrome with none. I wonder if the 'refresh' is an attempt to get away from that at the point where someone might be giving Firefox another chance.

I don't remember if the refresh offer appeared back in the xul days, when there was much more scope for extensions to hurt the experience.

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